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civictype_r04
01-27-2011, 07:10 AM
What are some good seat harnesses that I can get for my Buddy Club Bucket I just got??? I don't want Takata ones so don't say them!!!!

Manny Kid 15
01-27-2011, 09:03 AM
I bought NRG 2-point seat Harnesses and they are pretty good...Sparco also makes good ones.

RedSiBaron
01-27-2011, 09:14 AM
I bought NRG 2-point seat Harnesses and they are pretty good...Sparco also makes good ones.

2 point? You mean 4 point? Also sparco harnesses suck, I could never keep them tight in my old car...


I suggest buying something with a camlock, also suggest 5 point so you have the option...you should look at crow, simpson, or impact

Manny Kid 15
01-27-2011, 09:16 AM
2 point? You mean 4 point? Also sparco harnesses suck, I could never keep them tight in my old car...


I suggest buying something with a camlock, also suggest 5 point so you have the option...you should look at crow, simpson, or impact


LOL i guess it is a 4 point Harness

PatrickJamesYu
01-27-2011, 12:17 PM
LOL i guess it is a 4 point Harness
Haha yeah
I mean stock is a 3 point
so your 2 point is just one strap hahaha ouch

RedSiBaron
01-27-2011, 12:21 PM
Haha yeah
I mean stock is a 3 point
so your 2 point is just one strap hahaha ouch

they actually have 3 point over shoulder and lap harnesses, they just have the 2 shoulder straps meet into one anchor...

Manny Kid 15
01-27-2011, 12:22 PM
Haha yeah
I mean stock is a 3 point
so your 2 point is just one strap hahaha ouch

LMAO yeah i got it know of why they call it 4 point...i thought it was because of the buckle and how many insert go into it..

ImportCustomx
01-27-2011, 01:36 PM
make sure you route yopur belts properly. i believe 15 degree's angle from your shoulder/neck is the rule...

Edit: found pic

http://simpsonraceproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/big_up6pt.gif

my harnesses are mounted properly.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4961491676_69c91224c7_z.jpg

27rocks
01-27-2011, 03:20 PM
A lot of people over look CROW harnesses. They are super good quality and are very affordable.

88crx
01-27-2011, 03:31 PM
make sure you route yopur belts properly. i believe 15 degree's angle from your shoulder/neck is the rule...

Edit: found pic

http://simpsonraceproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/big_up6pt.gif
my harnesses are mounted properly.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4961491676_69c91224c7_z.jpg
Are your mounted to the head rest in the back? Tough to tell in that picture.


A lot of people over look CROW harnesses. They are super good quality and are very affordable.
Was going to be my suggestion as well.

I've sat it lots of different ones I prefer a wider webbing like 3".Some of them make narrow 2" crap that I didn't really like. If you can get past the green of Takata's they really are nice and easy to adjust. My new Willians are also very nice and comfy, if you can wait long enough to order them in, plus they come in any color you can imagine.

BeaterEP
01-27-2011, 07:37 PM
In to find out where CustomX's harnesses are attached.
I've toyed with the idea of going for a harness, but don't want to remove the rear seats if possible.
So, if there's a way, I might be down :D

PatrickJamesYu
01-27-2011, 08:52 PM
In to find out where CustomX's harnesses are attached.
I've toyed with the idea of going for a harness, but don't want to remove the rear seats if possible.
So, if there's a way, I might be down :D

Can't you just use a harness bar? getting into the rear seats my be difficult, but I don't think you have to remove them

PAPITUYO326
01-27-2011, 10:43 PM
I like my Simpson units. Not JDM at all, but they do the Job!

civictype_r04
01-28-2011, 05:32 AM
2 point? You mean 4 point? Also sparco harnesses suck, I could never keep them tight in my old car...


I suggest buying something with a camlock, also suggest 5 point so you have the option...you should look at crow, simpson, or impact


A lot of people over look CROW harnesses. They are super good quality and are very affordable.

I've been looking at the Crow ones!!!!! Where is a good place to buy them from I can't find any!!

talonXracer
01-28-2011, 07:20 AM
It is essential that you incorporate a harness bar, there is ABSOLUTELY no safe way to mount the shoulder harnesses in the EP3 without a harness bar ! ! !

If you were to be in an accident with the usual half-assed procedure of routing the shoulder belts through the seat openings under the head rest and then downwards to connect to the chassis, you will be in a world of hurt and probably will never walk or move an arm ever again!

civictype_r04
01-28-2011, 07:22 AM
^^ Ok I'll look into one of them also!!!

BeaterEP
01-28-2011, 07:26 AM
Yeah, obviously you need a harness bar :mbiggrin: Sorry if I sounded like I was trying to not use one. I just wasn't sure how you set up a bar and retain function/safety in the back seats, ya know?

talonXracer
01-28-2011, 07:28 AM
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?56315-FS-DGI-harness-bar-Neuspeed-rear-upper-bar&highlight=harness+ar


I just wasn't sure how you set up a bar and retain function/safety in the back seats, ya know?

You can not maintain easy rear seat access with a harness bar, nor would it be safe for a rear seat occupant.

BeaterEP
01-28-2011, 07:45 AM
Well there it is then.
That's what I was afraid of. AH well, no harness for me until I can turn her in to a strictly weekend/project car then. :mtongue:

88crx
01-28-2011, 08:46 AM
The angle the harness sits at mounted to the rear seatbelt mounts it right on the limit that most of the manufacturers recommend...... 45 degrees.

http://www.soloperformance.com/assets/images/ProductImages/schroth/SPSMnt3.gif

http://www.livermoreperformance.com/images/Products/Sparco/beltmounting.jpg

With that said get a harness bar.... they're not that expensive.

27rocks
01-28-2011, 10:02 AM
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?56315-FS-DGI-harness-bar-Neuspeed-rear-upper-bar&highlight=harness+ar



You can not maintain easy rear seat access with a harness bar, nor would it be safe for a rear seat occupant.

lol i was just going to say... people in the back would leave their teeth on the carpet after an accident lol

27rocks
01-28-2011, 10:03 AM
I've been looking at the Crow ones!!!!! Where is a good place to buy them from I can't find any!!

I just put "Crow harnesses" in google and a bunch of places came up. Just look around a little for the best deal.

ImportCustomx
01-28-2011, 10:25 AM
my harness goes straight over the top of the seat and then mounts to a bracket attached to the frame on the bottom of the car...so its like..straight back...down the seat...

ill have to take a pic for you.

But a harness bar is being purchased spring time... just so i dont have a super long harness strap running around the car. its neater and safer having the harness bar.

I am getting an autopower roll bar/sport cage... unsure. Depending on the scca rules etc what i get away with.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4783671489_68916e7023_z.jpg
If you look..youll see a 2inch- dark red strip goin down the back of the seat. 2 of them..one on the left and right.

those are the harness. they are mounted down on the frame. anyway, shit picture...ill see what i can do. this was after driving the grand canyon 14 mile dirt road...everything in trunk was absolutely covered in dust/dirt...it sucked!

88crx
01-28-2011, 10:54 AM
Yea that's not safe.... what if the rear seat failed and folded down in an accident. You would lose belt tension.

ImportCustomx
01-28-2011, 11:25 AM
what if i got in an accident while passengers were in the back and the back seat failed? the back seats i dont think are going to fail in an accident..they are designed to carry people.

This car passed tech @ button willow raceway so it must be an accepted way of mounting belts.


AND i didnt say this was the best way in the entire world... the angle of the harness is what i wanted to show not the actual mounting locations...kids just bolt em down to the floor.

88crx
01-28-2011, 11:30 AM
The rear seat belts mount to the car not the rear seat back. With how it's mounted you're relying on the seat back to hold in an accident.

ImportCustomx
01-28-2011, 11:40 AM
like i said..i was just showing angle etc. not showing mounting locations.

and yes i am relying on the back seat...the seat that is bolted and latched to the frame of the car.

what if the seats were folded down to begin with and the harness wasnt relying on the seat...

thats usually how i run them.

done talking about me... stay on topic with the OP

BeaterEP
01-29-2011, 08:44 AM
lol i was just going to say... people in the back would leave their teeth on the carpet after an accident lol

Yeah, see...that's what I was thinking LOL. Not so good!

EDU
01-29-2011, 03:20 PM
awesome thread. i have a Bride seat, NRG harness bar and Takatas that will go on my ep this spring!
thanks for the pics/diagrams guys!