EM2 vs. EP3Si vs JDM EP3R spec Front Sway Bar Comparisons

[usedep3]

anyone running a em2 sway bar? i got a couple of questions (i have some answers to some of the questions but i thought having this thread would

if so, which one are you guys using? the 01-02 uses a 25.4mm front sway and the 03-05 uses a 15.9mm front sway bar.

is there a difference in the handling characteristics? i believe the 25.4 is hollow like the usdm ep3 front sway and the 15.9 is the solid one.

for those with a jdm spec header, how's the clearance?

for those who have a k24 swap, how's the clearance?

[ShadowEP3]

bump for answers


ive actually been looking into this; anyone also running them with ES busings or other type of bushings?

[MadLorEP3]

Im not running any strut bars or sway bars but car still handles well enough but its the 16 mm one that you want to use for a k24a2...

[27rocks]

Im not running any strut bars or sway bars but car still handles well enough but its the 16 mm one that you want to use for a k24a2...

You are crazy!!! lol

[Kerby]

Im not running any strut bars or sway bars but car still handles well enough but its the 16 mm one that you want to use for a k24a2...


You are crazy!!! lol

Im not running a front sway or x-brace either. Swap forced me to part ways with it. Looking to get a swaybar back in.

I replaced the sub-frame brace to ITR spec and it greatly improved handling.

[TXEP3]

I'm running the 01-02 EM2 sway bar and end links to clear my BCRH. Funny part about that was it was the only thing I've ever found to be CHEAPER from the dealership than anywhere else online!

[usedep3]

Im not running any strut bars or sway bars but car still handles well enough but its the 16 mm one that you want to use for a k24a2...

i know some members have had success using the 15.9mm sway to clear the header w/ their k24 swaps. my brother has this setup but it still rattles against his KRRH.

i have a k20a3 and the spoon/itr header w/ the 15.9 sway and it clears fine. i just want to get a beefier sway up front and was trying to see if the 25.4 sway would work. i realize the OD/thickness is different but:

1) is the curvature the same?
2) iirc, 15.9 is solid and 25.4 is hollow, will the 25.4 make a difference in handling characteristics?




Im not running a front sway or x-brace either. Swap forced me to part ways with it. Looking to get a swaybar back in.

I replaced the sub-frame brace to ITR spec and it greatly improved handling.

what sway bar did you try? oem usdm ep3?




I'm running the 01-02 EM2 sway bar and end links to clear my BCRH. Funny part about that was it was the only thing I've ever found to be CHEAPER from the dealership than anywhere else online!

any chance you can take a quick pick under the car to show clearance between the highest part of the header and lowest part of the sway?

[Kerby]

what sway bar did you try? oem usdm ep3?

Before the swap I changed front and rear swaybars to '06 RSX-S spec.

[TXEP3]

any chance you can take a quick pick under the car to show clearance between the highest part of the header and lowest part of the sway?

Sorry, the car is totally burried in the garage right now. I know there wasn't a whole ton of clearance, but it wasn't rubbing at all after driving it for a month or so before winter came.

[usedep3]

Before the swap I changed front and rear swaybars to '06 RSX-S spec.

gotcha yea, i think the DC5S front sway has a curvature very similar to the usdm ep3 front sway



... I know there wasn't a whole ton of clearance...

mm's/cm's/unit of measure/inch's??

[Kerby]

DC5S is slightly thicker too.

[TXEP3]

mm's/cm's/unit of measure/inch's??

a cm or two i'd say.

[usedep3]

DC5S is slightly thicker too.

right, i almost forgot.




a cm or two i'd say.

nice. 1cm is good enough, but 2cm would be great.





is anyone running an ep3r front say?

[MadLorEP3]

I replaced the sub-frame brace to ITR spec and it greatly improved handling.

I did the same thing
nice handling

[usedep3]

is anyone running the ep3r front sway? or know of anyone that is?

[usedep3]

just thought i'd post this up. found the p/n for the jdm ep3r front sway bar: 51300-S5D-J02

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3233/jdmarb.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7228/jdmfrontarb1.jpg

[Passenger]

just thought i'd post this up. found the p/n for the jdm ep3r front sway bar: 51300-S5D-J02

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3233/jdmarb.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7228/jdmfrontarb1.jpg

How much are they going for and where can you find them? I was thinking of just doing the stock ctr front and rear sway set up.

[usedep3]

How much are they going for and where can you find them? I was thinking of just doing the stock ctr front and rear sway set up.

its like $110 plus shipping on icb.

[Andrew]

its like $110 plus shipping on icb.

and this one should clear any DC5 header right?

[Mighty_Mouse_Ep]

I am actually running a DC5 front sway i believe it is 23mm when i get home i will measure it. The stock ep is a 25mm i believe, also the dc5 front sway does have the same bends as the oem.

[usedep3]

and this one should clear any DC5 header right?

from what i've read on crsx, i know that this sway can be used to clear a jdm header like the spoon/itr/toda on a k20a. i'm trying to find out which sway would clear the same headers on a ep3/dc5. hoping wither 01/02 em2 sway, 03-05 em2 sway or jdm ep3r front sway could do this

[ep-unit]

Im not running a front sway or x-brace either. Swap forced me to part ways with it. Looking to get a swaybar back in.

I replaced the sub-frame brace to ITR spec and it greatly improved handling.

got P/N on sub frame brace?

[usedep3]

got p/n on sub frame brace?

this is the part number for the subframe brace: 74230-S6M-J00

it can be purchased through any acura stealership

[usedep3]

thanks to vicx52o i'll have an update on this thread. i'll post up pics later tonight after my GF brings home my digi-cam

could a mod edit the title to say: 'EM2 vs. USDM EP3Si vs JDM EP3R spec Front Sway Bar Comparison'

[lordofthesiths]

this is the part number for the subframe brace: 74230-S6M-J00

it can be purchased through any acura stealership

what the difference between the ours and the ITR brace?
also i looked up that part # and it just says its for a rsx not a type-R

[lordofthesiths]

Never mind i found the info here.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2680439

the Type-s and Type-R have the same brace.
It's wall thickness is more.
good pics and info at above link

[usedep3]

top to bottom: EP3R , EP3Si, EM2-15.9mm
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/usedep3/IMG_5535.jpg

left to right: EM2-15.9mm, EP3Si, EP3R
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/usedep3/IMG_5547.jpg

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EP3R (top), EM2-15.9mm (bottom)
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/usedep3/IMG_5538.jpg

EM2-15.9mm (front), EP3R (back)
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/usedep3/IMG_5539.jpg

EM2-15.9mm (left), EP3R (right)
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/usedep3/IMG_5546.jpg

[Blah1219]

I picked up the 25.4mm EM2 front sway, ingall's endlinks, ES bushings for my k24a1 swap. Hopefully the DCRH clears it.

[usedep3]

I picked up the 25.4mm EM2 front sway, ingall's endlinks, ES bushings for my k24a1 swap. Hopefully the DCRH clears it.

what was the part number for the 25.4mm EM2 sway that you picked up?

[Blah1219]

P/N: 51300-S5D-A01
I picked it up from crsx

[Paulieep3]

I have a k24a2 swap, would the 16mm em2 sway bar clear the header? what would be the best sway bar to have that will clear this setup.

[usedep3]

it depends on the header really. if you plan on running a front sway the thinner em2 sway offers the greatest clearance

[imthebro]

so just to confirm the 2003-2005 Em2 swaybar is the 16mm one and part # is 51300-S5D-A02 ?

I did a search on Hondapartscheap : http://www.hondapartscheap.com/southbay/jsp/prddisplay.jsp?hidSwitch=&hidIrno=&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry2=2004&catcgry3=2DR+EX&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=KNUCKLE&vinsrch=no&ListAll=&prdrefno=1093340&act=additem&count=1&quantity=1&qty0=1&qty2=1&qty4=1&qty6=1&qty8=1&qty10=1&qty12=1&qty14=1&qty16=1&qty18=1&qty20=1&qty22=1&qty24=1&qty26=1&qty28=1&qty30=1&qty32=1&qty34=1&qty36=1&qty38=1&qty40=1&qty42=1

is #5 the right one ? the last thing I want is to order the 23 mm em2 sway, I need the 16 mm to try and clear my headers.
Also, did you guys order em2 swaybar bushings or the stock ep3 ones fit ?

[bchaney]

Just posted this in another thread...

The 15.9mm EM2 front sway is P/N 51300-S5D-A02. I have one sitting in my living room :msmile:

You need the 15.9mm bushings to go with the 15.9mm bar.

[udontknowjack]

i can use ep3 spec end links?

[Mighty_Mouse_Ep]

i can use ep3 spec end links?
Yes they should work fine

[epchad]

this is a great thread it really helped alot

[poeticfinesse21]

Just posted this in another thread...

The 15.9mm EM2 front sway is P/N 51300-S5D-A02. I have one sitting in my living room :msmile:

You need the 15.9mm bushings to go with the 15.9mm bar.

I've been looking for that part # everywhere. Good shit :thumbu:

[Eddie Murphy]

I have a k24a2 swap, would the 16mm em2 sway bar clear the header? what would be the best sway bar to have that will clear this setup.

I just swapped a k24a2 and am running OBX V2 race headers. I had to remove front sway and I want to know if the em2 16mm sway will fit? Thanks...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1507675_609267425805013_238701350_n.jpg

[fugazzyek]

I just swapped a k24a2 and am running OBX V2 race headers. I had to remove front sway and I want to know if the em2 16mm sway will fit? Thanks...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1507675_609267425805013_238701350_n.jpg

almost the same swap, +1 to know about it

[cyllarus]

100% Confirmed, it will fit.

I have a k24a2, DCRH, and the 16 MM em2 sway. it clears just fine but is close on the passenger side when the car is up on jacks.

As the car is lowered the bar rotates back and gains more clearance.

[Eddie Murphy]

^^^ I tried and it's too close for me to actually say it fits.
A credit card of clearance is all it afforded. Any bumps and I suspect it will bang around.
Others(CRSX guys) have reported the same, that it bangs around when driving.