Sparco 3 point Harness

[spartan]

Hey guys I've been wanting to get this 3 point harness for my OEM seats.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200451877074&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Any body rock this?
How the hell do i attach it?
Do I need to put on this bar?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200451877074&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Pics would help me a lot
Thanks dudes!

[spartan]

common you bastards help me out!

[PatrickJamesYu]

I've heard you attatch the "top" mounting thing to an area that is acceptable for any racing harness
I forgot who posted it but there was a little diagram showing proper angles and dangerous mounting angles.

I would think the top can be mounted to the rear like to the c-pillar.
And the 2 side mounts can be mounted to the sides of the seat.

I know this is VERY vague but I have failed to see these in person :/

[spartan]

hahaha very vague indeed.
I couldn't find a post in the search.
damn.

[SkareKrow]

Bump! For something interesting and for someone that knows :)! :bump2:

[PatrickJamesYu]

Generally I'd say it will be unsafe without a harness bar, and a seat with the 2 holes designed for aftermarket harnesses.
But if you're destined to keep your stock seats
I would think it's either get the harness bar and sacrifice the safety of the rear seats,
Or don't use a harness bar and sacrifice the driver's safety.

BUT
in the diagram I saw a while back, it seemed to show that the harness bar wasn't necessary
There are a few more different acceptable mounting locations.. I'll look for the post now

[PatrickJamesYu]

Okay so the c pillar appears to be a improper mounting location haha

http://www.ephatch.com/forum//showthread.php?61415-Seat-Harnesses&highlight=harness

[Distance]

Mounting a harness on your stock seats is asking for a death wish. Go invest in seats before the harness. Standard seat belts is fine for stock seats

[spartan]

I don't get why using the stock seat can be so unsafe.
That thread doesn't say anything about not being able to use the stock seats.
I would buy some aftermarket seats but i haven't seen any that come with air bags.
Now that's safe.


It is essential that you incorporate a harness bar, there is ABSOLUTELY no safe way to mount the shoulder harnesses in the EP3 without a harness bar ! ! !

If you were to be in an accident with the usual half-assed procedure of routing the shoulder belts through the seat openings under the head rest and then downwards to connect to the chassis, you will be in a world of hurt and probably will never walk or move an arm ever again!

According to him all i need is the harness bar.

[spartan]

also since the topic is on the table;
RACING SEATS
Is there anything wrong with buying replica racing seats?
I see some really good deals on ebay and whats so hard with making a racing seat?
Seems like your spending more money on the name then function and form.
just a thought, correct me if im wrong.
take a look at these seats, not a bad deal and they look real nice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Sparco-Evo-2-Plus-seats-Black-JDM-recaro-bride-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b8ef6cc9QQitemZ17060 6423241QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

[LLH]

the centered hole in the oem seat are narrower than your neck, so the seat belt is going to "pinch" your neck.. And the angle between a imagined vertical line from the exit holes in backrest and the mouting point in the rear area should not be higher than 20 degrees.. If it is more than 20 degrees you have higher risk of collapsing you seat and/or compressing your spine in a crash...

schroth knows :)

http://www.schrothracing.com/sdocs/2009_Competition_Instructions.pdf

[spartan]

SUPER HELPFUL THANKS!
So the same would happen with OEM RSX seats too huh

[Jukka]

I wouldnt suggest getting replica seats. Replica seats have ZERO safety testing. If your gonna go with an aftermarket seat, buy an FIA approved seat. If its good enough for a race car, its good enough for you.

Just curious, any reason why you wanna go with race seats and harnesses? If its for the appearance, you might wanna think about whats more important: having your interior looking cool/jdm....or being safe?

[makavelibranded]

the centered hole in the oem seat are narrower than your neck, so the seat belt is going to "pinch" your neck.. And the angle between a imagined vertical line from the exit holes in backrest and the mouting point in the rear area should not be higher than 20 degrees.. If it is more than 20 degrees you have higher risk of collapsing you seat and/or compressing your spine in a crash...

schroth knows :)

http://www.schrothracing.com/sdocs/2009_Competition_Instructions.pdf

right page 13 shows how to do it the correct way,.. this is how im setup currently
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/5147212864_38b7092738_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7495968@N02/5147212864/)
Interior My Race/DD car :) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7495968@N02/5147212864/) by C. Campbell (http://www.flickr.com/people/7495968@N02/), on Flickr
and need to run the harness over a harness bar to get the proper angle, im mounted to a good bolt but it just doesint have the proper angle

The harness bar is not for mounting a harness but to get the right angle if setup like mine.

Also those reps you see on ebay will fall apart in a crash.

[PatrickJamesYu]

also since the topic is on the table;
RACING SEATS
Is there anything wrong with buying replica racing seats?
I see some really good deals on ebay and whats so hard with making a racing seat?
Seems like your spending more money on the name then function and form.
just a thought, correct me if im wrong.
take a look at these seats, not a bad deal and they look real nice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Sparco-Evo-2-Plus-seats-Black-JDM-recaro-bride-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b8ef6cc9QQitemZ17060 6423241QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

Replica seats arent DOT approved and/or tested
They are simply molded to a similar look and shape.
Most of them don't have reinforced backs and braces.
BUT because it's a replica doesn't mean it's not approved.

Their is a local shop that does 'replica seats'.
Their design is definitely based off of Bride, Sparco, and Recaro.
But they are full tested and stuff.
So to a sense, yes they make replica stuff, but it's kind of their own as well..
Kinda like Seibon (if I'm correct)
They do ALOT of replica stuff, but people swear by them.
(I may be wrong about accusing or saying they do replicas)

I THINK f1 spec test's their stuff?
They are the factory/shop that makes a lot of 'nicer' replica seats

[civictype_r04]

Don't get them they are junk!!!!! Get some crow harnesses!!!!

[spartan]

I wouldnt suggest getting replica seats. Replica seats have ZERO safety testing. If your gonna go with an aftermarket seat, buy an FIA approved seat. If its good enough for a race car, its good enough for you.

Just curious, any reason why you wanna go with race seats and harnesses? If its for the appearance, you might wanna think about whats more important: having your interior looking cool/jdm....or being safe?

Well i intend on turning my car into an off road vehicle when im done building it, so i thought it would be cool to have it look like a race car in the mean time.



right page 13 shows how to do it the correct way,.. this is how im setup currently
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/5147212864_38b7092738_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7495968@N02/5147212864/)
Interior My Race/DD car :) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7495968@N02/5147212864/) by C. Campbell (http://www.flickr.com/people/7495968@N02/), on Flickr
and need to run the harness over a harness bar to get the proper angle, im mounted to a good bolt but it just doesint have the proper angle

The harness bar is not for mounting a harness but to get the right angle if setup like mine.

Also those reps you see on ebay will fall apart in a crash.

I have that deck!
what kind of seat an harness are you rocking?


Replica seats arent DOT approved and/or tested
They are simply molded to a similar look and shape.
Most of them don't have reinforced backs and braces.
BUT because it's a replica doesn't mean it's not approved.

Their is a local shop that does 'replica seats'.
Their design is definitely based off of Bride, Sparco, and Recaro.
But they are full tested and stuff.
So to a sense, yes they make replica stuff, but it's kind of their own as well..
Kinda like Seibon (if I'm correct)
They do ALOT of replica stuff, but people swear by them.
(I may be wrong about accusing or saying they do replicas)

I THINK f1 spec test's their stuff?
They are the factory/shop that makes a lot of 'nicer' replica seats

What's the name of that local shop?


Don't get them they are junk!!!!! Get some crow harnesses!!!!

I thought Sparco made everything good, I really like the new line of wheels that came out.
2 inch or 3 inch harness?

[makavelibranded]

I have that deck!
what kind of seat an harness are you rocking?


I have the Schroth Rallye 3 harness and its street legal unlike most, another thing some harnesses material have expiration dates I think I read that the material used will decay over time from getting in and out (the stretching) and the straps can get weak but dont quote me it was a while ago I read this.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS370US370&q=Schroth+Ralley+3#hl=en&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS370US370&tbs=shop:1&&sa=X&ei=EyZsTeXpF434swPFq-CmBA&ved=0CEIQBSgA&q=Schroth+Rallye+3&spell=1&biw=1899&bih=909&bav=on.1,or.&fp=f02c1330b766f6e0

And heres why you dont mount to the harness bar
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2896572

[spartan]

Oh I'm feeling really dumb here, but let me get this straight;
I can't use my OEM seat because the neck hole is too small and because the it can fold over an crush me... Right?
has anyone tried this? I know one of my buddies with an EP3 did it an it looked bad ass! his car was gutted tho.
I see the OEM type R Recaro with the harness all the time in magazines an what not. Can't those fold over and crush you?
I thought the RSX seats would be perfect.
By they way im over doing this especially since it compromises my safety im more curious now

[civictype_r04]

And heres why you dont mount to the harness bar
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2896572

Wow that is crazy never seen it happen before!!!!!

[spartan]

Is NRG a good buy for racing seats?

[PatrickJamesYu]

Is NRG a good buy for racing seats?

For looks yeah, but I don't think they stand up to the proper safety standards
But thats just what I think, I may be wrong.

[spartan]

For looks yeah, but I don't think they stand up to the proper safety standards
But thats just what I think, I may be wrong.

is there any way to look it up?

[PatrickJamesYu]

is there any way to look it up?
I think either the website should say, or you can contact them and ask if any of the seats, or any particular series is DOT approved
Or if they are only recommended for off road use, or if they are use-at-your-own risk kinda seats.

[spartan]

I think either the website should say, or you can contact them and ask if any of the seats, or any particular series is DOT approved
Or if they are only recommended for off road use, or if they are use-at-your-own risk kinda seats.

alright cool thanks for the info.
get back to me about those wings your selling!
619 254 8306 send some pics