Looks like my A3 gave out...

[atrain01]

Seeing as i cant afford 5k for a k20 swap.
Im looking at a rebuild.

What internals should i boost up?
Forged pistons? What else?
Was looking into a a2 head, what would i need to do to the block to handle 8k rpms?

[mitchell_ep3]

go k24 swap, i know here in saskatchewan SGi had a k24 motor in their salvage for just over 2g's..... i'll find it for you and get back to you.

[makavelibranded]

I doesint cost that much for a swap,. you can swap for about as much as doing internal work.

& no one can give you advice on what boost up since you didint say what was wrong with it. The head question has been asked several times take a look at the engine section youll find plenty of answers, but fair warning its common knowledge here an a2 head will give you no results.

[mitchell_ep3]

no sorry, couldnt find it.. must have sold... it was there in january, but i guess anything can happen in over a month.

[atrain01]

Whats wrong with it.... I am blowing excesive amounts of oil out my valve cover breather. (filled catch can daily)
Major power loss, bogging, slow accel, stuttering at idle.

Any insight?....Rings shot? blow by?

All the swaps i have seen are priced at 4500-5500

I was looking at forged pistons, only like $600?

[atrain01]

Also a cylinder 4 misfire!

[atrain01]

Oh also the valve cover breather hose was coated in a yellow fluid. However i havent been losing any coolant?

[makavelibranded]

Have you changed your plugs and checked & changed your oil to see if anything is in it?

How many miles?

you should look around at swaps, ive seen anything from ep3 a3's for 500 us dollars to tsx k24's for 2000 us dollars

I wouldint just throw pistons in it, you havint diagnosed anything yet

[atrain01]

Only 117 kms

i wouldnt buy a new a3 lol, if i did a swap id want to upgrade. What engines are all compatible for an ep3?
I changed my plugs in aug.

And my oil was clean when drained, however i am losing ALOT of it somewhere.

[makavelibranded]

all the k24's and k20's can be swapped,.. it depends on which engine you get, some need a different mount some dont, just search the engine on here and youll find your answer.

any cel codes?

you should look into whats wrong before dumping money into something that might be an easy fix.

heres a trusted engine seller
http://www.ephatch.com/forum//forumdisplay.php?188-The-Longblock-Shop

[atrain01]

I took it to one mech today. He instantly said blow by theres nothing you can do. He also said that a honda engine cant be rebuilt, because the new pistons will not set in properly?

That didnt make sense to me.

What would you recommend? a compression check? leakdown?

[atrain01]

And yeah, i scanned it about a month ago, and im getting cyl 4 misfire.

I will scan it again tomorrow. BEcause the light comes on and stays solid much faster now.

[makavelibranded]

ya check the light tommarow and post up all of the codes you get

also I wouldint go back to that mechanic lol



it is typical of the k series to burn a little oil, even in the manual honda recommends to check your oil level at every gas fillup

[atrain01]

Will do, thanks bud!

[makavelibranded]

yep hopefully someone else with more knowledge can chime in,.. but those engine codes help tons

[atrain01]

Yeah it just sucks a scan is like $60 bucks alone at most places!

[makavelibranded]

damn the places around here do it for free,.. i mean shit it only takes a second to plug that thing in

[sleepy ep3]

Get a k24 from an accord. Going to be the cheapest since they were the most common, or an older cr-v

[mitchell_ep3]

Yeah it just sucks a scan is like $60 bucks alone at most places!

as far as i know part source will scan your car for free, if not to rent a scan tool is like 10 bucks a day.

[atrain01]

Lol went to part source. Apparently they dont have one. Only to buy, its only 85 to buy a cheap one that just displays the code. Ill buy one this afternoon

[atrain01]

And i was looking at the k24a1? Only 160 hp? that wouldnt be an upgrade! lol.

[ep3jd]

No offense op but you don't really seem to know enough to try and build the internals of any motor. The easiest/cheapest swap is going to be a k24a1. You will ned kpro and the passenger motor mount bracket from a crv. Everything else swaps over. You could pull the swap off for about 2 grand.

Kpro -950
K24a1 -800
I think the bracket is like 30 bucks. I picked one up for rhcp0801 with my discount so idk what retail price is.
And misc shit like new filter plugs oil coolant etc.

Just search and you'll get tons of k24 swap info on here. :thumbu:

[ep3jd]

And i was looking at the k24a1? Only 160 hp? that wouldnt be an upgrade! lol.

The added tq is. Its cheap and once you have it in you can always upgrade to a k20a2 head and make good numbers. Your motor is blown NOW and you need to fix it. Its different when planning and saving for a balls to the wall swap down the road, unless you have mad coin in the bank.

This is just my .02, do what you want.

[atrain01]

lol! i wouldnt be the one doing it!
And i was looking at a k24 specs? only 160 hp? wouldnt be any boost over the a3?
Would my intake and headers still fit?

[ep3jd]

I don't know what header you have so I can't answer that.

Do you have any idea the price of building a motor and what goes into it? Especially having someone else do it? That's parts + labor!
Pistons rings rods cams valves seals gaskets kpro etc etc. all that to STILL have a shitty k20a3 LOL!

[ep3jd]

And a k24a1 + k20a2 head will net around 200whp with full bolt ons and a tune. Sounds to me like a good solution to your current issue, with room for a serious upgrade from your 130 whp stock a3. :mwink:

[atrain01]

!!! Maybe so, but, with a turbo and cams etc, can a a3 not but out a decent amount of power?
Or it is just not worth it at all?

If not, i supposed, i could make 5 k within the next month for a k20, whats labour on a swap? 1500$?
Do i need kpro for a swap? or will the k20 ecu make it so i dont need it?

[atrain01]

Ah i feel so noob for all the questions :(

Someone down there told me k20a2 head no good on a3?
is there a difference for a k24 bottom end?

[ep3jd]

The a3 is good for nothing. Get it out of your head. Don't waste your money on a k20. Just do a k24. The added tq is awesome. Check the swap threads for this info. I'm driving and don't want to get a ticket LOL!

Btw, a k24a2 is 200hp out of the box and can be found for around 1800 bucks.

And kpro is a must for all swaps.

[atrain01]

Alright ill look around.
My tranny would be good i just need the block?
Any no ecu because kpro programs mine?

[ep3jd]

Yes your trans is fine. And you don't need another ecu, just kpro. Check your local craigslist for k24a1. They go real cheap. Junk yards too.

[atrain01]

Alright ill start shopping around.
Thanks!
Im also going to get my car officially diagnosed today! lol

[udontknowjack]

Yeah it just sucks a scan is like $60 bucks alone at most places!

you can buy a code scaner for $40...thats what i did

[atrain01]

Wow cheapest one I have found up here was 80 something.

I'm at the mechanic. He said he is going to check my headgasket? Could a fauly
One cause mty engine to over pressurize and blow oil out the breather.

I'm not losing any coolant though.

[Rictorious88]

Wow cheapest one I have found up here was 80 something.

I'm at the mechanic. He said he is going to check my headgasket? Could a fauly
One cause mty engine to over pressurize and blow oil out the breather.

I'm not losing any coolant though.

I thought you were going for blow by not a blown headgasket... this guy sounds like he is trying to just get your money.

[atrain01]

A different mechanic told me yesterday it was blow by.

This guy just said its possible. Its in the bay right now lol.

Even if it was bad I wouldn't be letting them fix it!

[atrain01]

I guess my 4th cylinder compression was at 25. :(

[T_Virus]

And i was looking at the k24a1? Only 160 hp? that wouldnt be an upgrade! lol.

You still need to learn why people go with a k24a1. It's not about the HP. It's all about the torque. Torque wins races, while Horse Power sells cars.

[j0000stin]

You still need to learn why people go with a k24a1. It's not about the HP. It's all about the torque. Torque wins races, while Horse Power sells cars.

dont forget hp wins on the top end. tq isnt really needed as much as hp for freeways

[T_Virus]

dont forget hp wins on the top end. tq isnt really needed as much as hp for freeways

LOL...Don't believe Justin, He is the douche whom sold his FA5 (more HP) and came back to the EP3 (Less HP)...You could be still be at the start of the line while my torque will dust your HP....Slap yourself crazy, welcome back...