PDA

View Full Version : Why Knock off wheels are bad, and nice wheels are good :)



ImportCustomx
03-10-2011, 04:49 PM
Interesting video that may make you second guess buying a set of "knock off" wheels.

Im all about saving money etc, but i figured id share this video. You get what you pay for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeFB6SRslk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

yyi
03-10-2011, 05:02 PM
0:29

"if you buy the imitation wheels. you takes a risk"

ep3jd
03-10-2011, 05:07 PM
If a force like that ever made contact with my wheels I would HOPE it was a knock off because I'd hate myself for putting a real wheel through that. Lol. It is interesting though.

04EP3Hatch
03-10-2011, 05:13 PM
"Real wheels" break too just no one makes that big of a deal out of it if a rota breaks

Zzyzx
03-10-2011, 05:15 PM
meh, its an incomplete test. they need to put the forged wheel on a wheel balancer and see how much it bent out of round. Else, all they showed is what happens when you try to bend cast aluminum.

Weds is trying to sell you a wheel, so look at this as nothing more then marketing propaganda.

MEAN IRISH GUY
03-10-2011, 05:30 PM
this is good to know for when i have my car on its side and im dropping tons of weights onto them. ive driven my car across the bronx hundreds of times, the ULTIMATE in wheel strength tests.

Passenger
03-10-2011, 05:45 PM
3:24
Design
Quarity
Safety
Price

mitchlikesbikes
03-10-2011, 05:49 PM
3:24
Design
Quarity
Safety
Price

engrish FTW!

DRP967
03-10-2011, 05:54 PM
Been through more than 6 sets of Rotas with no issues, then again I never tracked the car. However for street use they held up just fine. On some rpf1s now, very happy with this wheel since it looks good, lightweight, comes in a vast array of sizes/offsets, and is not that expensive.

Imo that test seems more like a marketing thing for Weds as someone mentioned earlier.

yyi
03-10-2011, 06:02 PM
3:24
Design
Quarity
Safety
Price

if we're gonna go by vocals then the entire video would apply lol

RHCP0801
03-10-2011, 06:06 PM
3:24
Design
Quarity
Safety
Price

hahaha i laughed at that part

Passenger
03-10-2011, 07:26 PM
if we're gonna go by vocals then the entire video would apply lol

yeah I know I was trying to figure out some of the stuff he was saying, he speaks great engrish he just mumbles a rot.

Tortoise
03-11-2011, 02:54 AM
Haha this video made me raugh quite a bit. Any wheeel will break under a force like that. We dont even know if they were even forces on the real one to the fake one. I can buy 5 sets of rotas for the price of a wed. Ill take my risks with my fake wheels. Engrish ftw!

Rasy
03-11-2011, 09:59 AM
Take a look at how the wheel-obsessed community responded to this:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5220919-Wheel-Discussion....why-good-wheels-Co-t-BIG-money&p=70445211

Kerby
03-11-2011, 10:04 AM
engrish FTW!

:spit:
DUDE... my coffee just came outta my nose!

ImportCustomx
03-11-2011, 10:07 AM
haha..vw's hardcore!

Passenger
03-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Haha this video made me raugh quite a bit. Any wheeel will break under a force like that. We dont even know if they were even forces on the real one to the fake one. I can buy 5 sets of rotas for the price of a wed. Ill take my risks with my fake wheels. Engrish ftw!

I was thinking the same.. Im all for spending cash for a good quality product but at the same time, when it comes to automotive stuff, I just really cant justify (especially with my income) dropping two grand or more with a top notch set of rims and good sticky tires. I was thinking yeah here we go, drop 45 lbs on your weds and drop three thousand lbs on the rotas lol.

ep3jd
03-11-2011, 12:34 PM
^^^ hahahahaha

Twisted-X
04-03-2011, 06:13 PM
It always amazes me how horrible the Japanese can be at speaking English. Sure its not their primary language, but if I was going to make a Japanese commercial selling an expensive product I might just run a promo by a native Japanese speaker first.

That being said, I did witness a knock-off crack pretty severely under the force of a 100+ mph road course:
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/jimmyspiffy1986/WMHM9/Wheelcrack2.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/jimmyspiffy1986/WMHM9/Wheelcrack1.jpg

Lucid Moments
04-03-2011, 06:29 PM
I ran my Rotas on the track for a couple of years with no problem. I still use them as my street wheels.

MR.Pizza
04-03-2011, 10:44 PM
I hit a log layed across a dim lit road at 45mph, they were a cheap set of Enkei RSV's. The wheels didn't even bend. There are quality wheels at decent prices out there, why take the chance?

j0000stin
04-03-2011, 11:18 PM
i had rota dpt's. the cracked when i hit a pothole. but my coilover was also blown. boo hoo! theyre cheap to replace

powdbyrice
04-04-2011, 12:46 AM
Well, u bought teins and u say their quality is crap, sooooo what's your point?

powdbyrice
04-04-2011, 12:52 AM
Ps: you're not knocking "knockoff" wheel designs, but rather the cheaper manufacturing process.
Pps: how do u know a rota or whatever replica wheel would not have survived the same impact? Did u go back and run over the same log under the exact same conditions? Quit making stupid statements with no evidence supporting your claim.

j0000stin
04-04-2011, 02:00 AM
Ps: you're not knocking "knockoff" wheel designs, but rather the cheaper manufacturing process.
Pps: how do u know a rota or whatever replica wheel would not have survived the same impact? Did u go back and run over the same log under the exact same conditions? Quit making stupid statements with no evidence supporting your claim.

rotas are fairly cheap, they arent as easy to REPAIR as the more expensive 2 or 3 piece wheels but for only 200-250/rim it would be cheaper to replace than to get the more expensive rim repaired anyways

ep3jd
04-04-2011, 05:13 AM
250? Even that is "expensive". You can replace an rpf1 for that price. Rotas are like 650 shipped. :msmile:

powdbyrice
04-04-2011, 01:04 PM
rotas are fairly cheap, they arent as easy to REPAIR as the more expensive 2 or 3 piece wheels but for only 200-250/rim it would be cheaper to replace than to get the more expensive rim repaired anyways

no kidding. i was going to have one of my rotas fixed, but it would have been the same amount to replace it. couple hundred bux i think. plus, i'm not too keen on the idea of fixing wheels. i know people do it all the time, but once you bend metal, its never the same.

Zzyzx
04-04-2011, 01:20 PM
I hit a log layed across a dim lit road at 45mph, they were a cheap set of Enkei RSV's. The wheels didn't even bend. There are quality wheels at decent prices out there, why take the chance?
Enki RSV is a cast aluminum wheel, just like rotas... so its not far fetched to say that a Rota wheel would have also survived the impact.

Regardless; its typically not a good idea to try and repair any cast metal part... as the properties of cast metals do not react well to bending; aluminum probably being the worst of the bunch in general.

AKEP
04-04-2011, 03:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hrxXCXdcqVs

MR.Pizza
04-04-2011, 04:02 PM
Ps: you're not knocking "knockoff" wheel designs, but rather the cheaper manufacturing process.
Pps: how do u know a rota or whatever replica wheel would not have survived the same impact? Did u go back and run over the same log under the exact same conditions? Quit making stupid statements with no evidence supporting your claim.
All I'm claiming to be fact is the RSV's survived a bad impact and they were a rather cheap wheel, obviously not a knock off. Where is the unsupported claim? As for Tien quality I was a bit frustrated and made an rash post, but I'd be more than willing to send you pictures of the quality issues with those.