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Gabe
03-12-2011, 12:32 AM
Hey Guys,

Got a 2002 Civic Si Ep3 Hatch, boosted.

Purchased APEXI kit and this is what I have to wire into. Can some one guide me on what wires should be going to what?

Red, Blue, light-Green, Gray, purple, white and black, yellow, soild black, oranage, brown, dark green, red white stripe, pink, white, brown with white

The instructions unfortunately came in Japanese so Im SOL there.

Thanks,

Gabe

AUTiger
03-12-2011, 10:50 AM
Yeah you wire that shit straight into the trash!

Did you buy the car already boosted or is this something you just did and figured you would run a POS system to "tune" it. You need hondata k-pro man plain and simple.

MugenReplica
03-12-2011, 02:41 PM
Not a big fan of this engine management for our car or any car with variable timing, but here you go......

From our sponsor THMmotorsports!!
http://www.thmotorsports.net/images/stories/INSTALLATIONS/APEXI%20INTEGRATION/installation%20manuals/pdf6154.pdf

You need table H13A

Once you're done....
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/21-i-c-e-electrical/306192-diy-apexi-neo-menu-walk-through.html


*Yet another history lesson for all the Turbo'd Ephatch members. Esmith13 was the Prototype Ep3 for the original Cybernation turbo kit. Before they finished their Guardian Pill Engine Management, he ran a SAFC for over a year WITHOUT blowing his engine. You may still be able to find his post and SAFC setting somewhere around here. He also commented that it was a HUGE relief when his Guardian pill was finally finished!!

MugenReplica
03-12-2011, 03:00 PM
Searched around and came up with these posts about Esmith.

http://www.thejdm.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1457

http://www.thejdm.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=1226



OK, I spoke to CN on my own behalf :D to find out what's up with this Guardian thingie...

In a nutshell, it is used instead of a S-AFC. It is not a reflach of your ECU. It is a seperate box custom made by CN's techies. It is a piggyback in the exact same fashion as the S-AFC is in that is adjusts fuel based on the stock ECU's fuel map.

Imagine if they made a S-AFC III... And it was capable of reading tempature, a/f ratio, knock, and other things already monitored by the ECU and change the fuel adjustment ON THE FLY just like an AFC can, but automated by computer instead of by hand.

This box will be "adjustable" in general by hooking up a laptop to your car for basic setup like telling it what PSI you are running so if can plug in safe/rich values for the first time you start the car and program itself as you drive from then on out.

There is also a good chance their will be two versions of this computer - one that has the added feature of RedLine increase.

Expected release is sometime between April and December of '04

... Guess it pays to be an existing customer. :D

Oh, that reminds me. I was told it would cost me $300-$500 to purchace JUST the guardian box to install on my car so I can rip out the AFC. I am GUESSING that means like $300 for standard box and $500 for the one with the redline increase - but that is just me guessing. I make that assumption only because anything CN ever quoted me for in the past while in development they released for the quoted price or less, so giving me a range and knowing their may be 2 versions makes me believe this.

Will let you all know if I find out any more.

Eric