16x7_0 front, 16x8_-10 rear [Archive]

Piga

03-27-2011, 09:28 AM

So I had a friend with some wheels laying around in his pit of tires and he didn't realize that my little Honda was a 5 lug so we test fitted them on and they stuck out a crap ton in the rear. So we contemplated our idea and set out to fit some negative offset on an EP3. The rear is still looking kind of rough but it's still a work in progress and my deadline is Import Alliance 2011 Summer meet. We had started out with a 205/50/16 tire on the rear and this is how it turned out:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/197992_10150131023639556_505189555_6267476_3664181 _n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197176_10150131023719556_505189555_6267480_2717813 _n.jpg

But the so called rubbing that my friend had said was fine turned bad after I had left pool league :meek: :mcry: :

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189178_10150131023889556_505189555_6267487_5969363 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190570_10150131023934556_505189555_6267488_5177582 _n.jpg

So the stock rears had to be put back on and I have been bummed and stressed that i had ruined tires and everything so I worked on it for 3 hours after work yesterday and it came out looking a lot nicer and I will have pics up after I go wash the car. Figured I'd tease the EPHatch community a bit.

P.S. What kind of wheels are these? See if you can guess. :mbiggrin:

Kerby

03-27-2011, 09:31 AM

put the rears in the front and the front move to the rear.... then post the pics.
those looks so NICE. put some rubbing compound on those wheels and polish the Shiite out of it.

Piga

03-27-2011, 09:34 AM

The rears on the front works even worse because they stick out 2 inches outside the front fender. And I do plan on redoing the wheels. The first step is getting them to fit.

Piga

03-27-2011, 09:39 AM

Distance

03-27-2011, 09:50 AM

How much camber are you running in the rear? Should run some smaller tires.

Piga

03-27-2011, 09:59 AM

Not sure on exact camber but I'm guessing -2 or more..And it is currently running a 195/50/16 tire on the rear now. Will have pics up late tonight.

j0000stin

03-27-2011, 12:03 PM

what kind of wheels are those?

27rocks

03-27-2011, 01:29 PM

We tried the 16x8's on the front first because yes it is FWD and yes I was thinking hmm these should go on the front but it doesn't work out quite as well. It rubs on the inside wheel well and I can't do anything about that. I don't plan on tubbing the front end.
This is impossible. The fronts should fit with camber. I don't see how you are rubbing... where exactly are you rubbing?

Not sure on exact camber but I'm guessing -2 or more..And it is currently running a 195/50/16 tire on the rear now. Will have pics up late tonight.
hahaha definitely more then -2. More like (by looking at the pics) -4 to -5.

27rocks

03-27-2011, 01:33 PM

what kind of wheels are those?

They are from a Chrysler Conquest TSi Turbo

http://www.modifiedplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/car-photo-1989-chrysler-conquest-tsi-turbo.jpg

hondafrk

03-27-2011, 02:22 PM

I must say they look really good on the car though.

j0000stin

03-27-2011, 02:50 PM

i want! haha

rjmq06

03-27-2011, 03:06 PM

looks heavy but it looks really nice

27rocks

03-27-2011, 04:14 PM

I do agree that the overall design of the wheel goes well with the Ep shape, but the fitment is horrible.

j0000stin

03-27-2011, 05:22 PM

I do agree that the overall design of the wheel goes well with the Ep shape, but the fitment is horrible.

i agree. on my fa i wanted to see how much - camber i could run and i hit -7 and that was resting against the metal fuel line. the fitment looks nice from the side but i bet from the rear it looks gross haha.

whats the offset on the front?

emsep

03-27-2011, 05:39 PM

wheels also came on the mitsu starion which was the same thing as the conquest.

27rocks

03-27-2011, 06:23 PM

i agree. on my fa i wanted to see how much - camber i could run and i hit -7 and that was resting against the metal fuel line. the fitment looks nice from the side but i bet from the rear it looks gross haha.

whats the offset on the front?

It's the tittle of the thread fool lol.. F 16x7 +0 R 16x8 -10 :wacko:

MugenReplica

03-27-2011, 07:08 PM

Man, I miss my 1986 Mitsubishi Starion Esi-R. Loved everything about that car except the lack of available parts and lack of reliability. The guys on Starquestclub are swapping 1JZ's and 2JZ's into them now. Oh, with Nas too, cause I know one of you jackasses is going to post that pic...

j0000stin

03-27-2011, 07:59 PM

It's the tittle of the thread fool lol.. F 16x7 +0 R 16x8 -10 :wacko:

hahaha i just realized it haha

EAZYEP3

03-27-2011, 08:08 PM

the back rims look serious lol but they do look good on the car

Piga

03-27-2011, 08:19 PM

This is impossible. The fronts should fit with camber. I don't see how you are rubbing... where exactly are you rubbing?

The rear tires rub on the rear quarter's on bumps. I don't want to run a lot of negative camber on the front because that's where where all the handling is. The front's rub on turns and bumps as well because I have not raised the front at all (kind of don't want to raise it..).

looks heavy but it looks really nice

Looks heavy but the 16x8's are surprisingly much lighter than a stock 16" Si wheel with tire on.

The look is growing on me so much. And people are literally stopping to stare. :)

Piga

03-27-2011, 08:36 PM

but i bet from the rear it looks gross haha.

Ask and you shall receive, will have more pics later:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/195836_10150131023789556_505189555_6267482_989322_ n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/200472_10150133924234556_505189555_6293298_4280207 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/200623_10150133924854556_505189555_6293306_5529046 _n.jpg

27rocks

03-27-2011, 08:58 PM

The rear tires rub on the rear quarter's on bumps. I don't want to run a lot of negative camber on the front because that's where where all the handling is. The front's rub on turns and bumps as well because I have not raised the front at all (kind of don't want to raise it..).

Ummm....

Ok first of all you will have less rubbing in the rear if you put the 7's there instead of the 8's. That's obviously a no brainer not to mention not only are the rears an inch wider but also -10mm more. We have far less room in the back also so that's kinda common sense as well. Second putting negative camber in the front will not hinder handling it will actually improve it quite a bit ( you want more in the front then rear.. it will keep the car from pushing).

Piga

03-27-2011, 09:04 PM

Well here is half the pics. The other half are on the dead camera.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/200168_10150133924019556_505189555_6293297_6600987 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189634_10150133925869556_505189555_6293310_1899459 _n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196722_10150133925884556_505189555_6293311_4361525 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200235_10150133926404556_505189555_6293312_4406257 _n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/199017_10150133926689556_505189555_6293313_3494280 _n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197024_10150133927109556_505189555_6293315_470958_ n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188894_10150133927204556_505189555_6293316_498909_ n.jpg

Piga

03-27-2011, 09:06 PM

Ummm....

Ok first of all you will have less rubbing in the rear if you put the 7's there instead of the 8's. That's obviously a no brainer not to mention not only are the rears an inch wider but also -10mm more. We have far less room in the back also so that's kinda common sense as well. Second putting negative camber in the front will not hinder handling it will actually improve it quite a bit ( you want more in the front then rear.. it will keep the car from pushing).

Thanks for the advice, something to keep in mind. I still have a lot to play around with.

Passenger

03-27-2011, 09:52 PM

I dont like crazy wide/poke/hella stuff but I actually like this :thumbu:

j0000stin

03-28-2011, 12:19 AM

04EP3Hatch

03-28-2011, 04:15 AM

dudei love those wheels! are they oldddddd celica supra wheels? refinish them and call it a day!

AKEP

03-28-2011, 06:49 AM

what about older supra?

nvm that was a 4 spoke...

MugenReplica

03-28-2011, 06:52 AM

I agree with Rob. Do the reverse staggered and actually make that combo usable. If not, go over to Starquestclub and get two 87-89 Conquest/Starion rear 16x9's for the front of your Ep3. That way you'll at least have a somewhat more balanced ride.

dudei love those wheels! are they oldddddd celica supra wheels? refinish them and call it a day!

Nope, old Starion/Conquest wheels.

27rocks

03-28-2011, 11:03 AM

what about older supra?

nvm that was a 4 spoke...

And they are 4x114.3 lug pattern. I actually owned a 83 supra once and my brother had them on his 86 corolla.

ep3jd

03-28-2011, 11:21 AM

Dude..... Did stevie wonder roll your fenders??? :mconfused:

MugenReplica

03-28-2011, 12:19 PM

Dude..... Did stevie wonder roll your fenders??? :mconfused:

Doesn't matter because......
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/1809030/480/Stickers/Hella-Flush.png?v0

Still not my cup of tea. Hellaflush Ep3 guys have to go through a set of wheel bearings a year with crazy hellaflush dumps like this. I've had to replace both my rear wheel bearings and that was only from using 235/35/18's on 18x7.5's +35 for a couple of seasons. Crazy offset just causes way too much stress on the rear bearings.

Piga

03-28-2011, 04:54 PM

way to much neg. camber in the rear for my taste but to each his own.

i dont dig the staggered look
i dont dig the camber
but i do like the wheels. if you were to run the 16x7 +0 all around would be on point

I was thinking the same thing. I really want to find a pair of those so it works all around but for now the staggered is staying.

ep3jd

03-29-2011, 05:08 AM

Doesn't matter because......
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/1809030/480/Stickers/Hella-Flush.png?v0

Still not my cup of tea. Hellaflush Ep3 guys have to go through a set of wheel bearings a year with crazy hellaflush dumps like this. I've had to replace both my rear wheel bearings and that was only from using 235/35/18's on 18x7.5's +35 for a couple of seasons. Crazy offset just causes way too much stress on the rear bearings.

Really? I mean I don't drive my ep much but I had 16x8 +10 for a season with no problems.

Actually my rear is making a little noise... After I do the 5 lug I'll check the bearings and see what kind of damage I may have done.

MugenReplica

03-29-2011, 06:28 AM

Really? I mean I don't drive my ep much but I had 16x8 +10 for a season with no problems.
Actually my rear is making a little noise... After I do the 5 lug I'll check the bearings and see what kind of damage I may have done.

I didn't think I had any problems either, until low and behold yearly NYS inspection time came around and the mechanic told me I had a little extra wiggle in one of my back rims while it was up on the rack. Checked it myself and yup, new wheel bearing needed. The other rear (drivers side) was about 7-8 months later when I was swapping rims and found play once again (except on the passenger side). Oh well, they're fixed now.

Maybe it was just their time, but crazy hellaflush rear camber can't help with extra stress on the rear bearings with rims like these.

ImportCustomx

03-29-2011, 07:31 AM

Moved to suspension

OP please make sure you check where you post so it goes in the correct spot. just makes it easier to find info.

thanks! :)
- Jimmy

Good luck with your setup too btw. looks like its going to be interesting...

02TWSI

03-29-2011, 10:14 AM

Sweet.

27rocks

03-29-2011, 10:22 AM

I was thinking the same thing. I really want to find a pair of those so it works all around but for now the staggered is staying.

Even though that's a bit much i still think it would look way better then those 16x8 -10's. lol those are a bit much four our cars , but i sure do love the style of the wheels. I wish more companies would start making old school wheels in more friendly sizes.

Piga

03-30-2011, 08:08 AM

Here's the rest of the pics from the dead camera:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/200270_10150136515094556_505189555_6314754_191882_ n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200786_10150136515274556_505189555_6314762_7627039 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/200460_10150136515149556_505189555_6314756_8343473 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200309_10150136515314556_505189555_6314763_3916007 _n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188712_10150136515339556_505189555_6314764_7076766 _n.jpg

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MugenReplica

03-30-2011, 09:40 AM

You should really get two 16x9 from the 87-89 Conquest for the front. That'd pull it all together and look quite amazing in all honesty.

JaydmEp3

04-21-2011, 11:22 PM

good luck man. hope u figure it out. wheels look hella good on the ep. something different.

AKEP

04-23-2011, 01:19 AM

saw this today

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5622209462_dfa3597dc1_b.jpg

whatsvtec

04-23-2011, 05:17 AM

That r32 is local to me :D we've got some crazy fitment guys in this city.

Tortoise

04-23-2011, 05:36 AM

Poor quarter panels:(

ep3jd

04-23-2011, 08:12 AM

http://tapatalk.com/mu/d0362d33-eccc-4df9.jpg

lucky7

04-23-2011, 01:12 PM

i think it looks great. i might even toss a little spacer on the front. :)

ep3jd

04-23-2011, 01:41 PM

i think it looks great. i might even toss a little spacer on the front. :)

Glad to have another member that's appreciative of stance

Piga

04-27-2011, 08:20 AM

Thanks guys, and actually went to the body shop yesterday to get some quotes on all the dents on my car and we realized that while rolling the rear quarters it had put tension on the metal and had stretched it but in random spots, so while getting my dents fixed the EP will also be converted to fit low offset wheels/wide wheels in the rear, however you want to look at it.

The dents that are getting fixed are on the A-Pillar and were already quoted at $500 to fix but now both sides minus doors will be fixed for $1000. Hella good deal for the fact that my dude said the drivers side is going to take 12 hours and the passenger side is going to take 15 hours.

The main deadline for this to be done is Summer IA '11 but the wheels should be done by June. Should look DOPE!