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spartan
08-18-2011, 10:35 AM
Hey dudes,
I'm almost ready for my swap an i really want to go to Bisimoto Engineering in Ontario for my tune.
I've read some incredible things about him an his builds.
Most people I've talked to tell me to go to Church Automotive in Wilmington, CA
Both are a good 2 hrs away from me.
My plan is to swap here an drive out there, I can make it right?
Has anyone been to bisi before for a tune??

My build: (might not even be tune worthy)
Hondata Kpro pnf
K24A1 complete
RBC intake mani
Hondata img
Hybrid Racing 70mm tb
Karcepts adapter
AEM V2 short ram intake, autozone SPECTRE FILTER!!!!!!!
OBX race Header
Greddy 70mm exhaust, straight pipping no cat

K20A2 Transmission
Act Prolite 8.2lbs flywheel
Competition Clutch Stage IV clutch kit
Wavetrac LSD

I'm hoping i could get 200whp Maybe more?

Ba82Ep3
08-18-2011, 10:46 AM
I doubt it but it would be nice to see some of Bisi's work and what he's capable of...

spartan
08-18-2011, 10:52 AM
I doubt it but it would be nice to see some of Bini's work and what he's capable of...

Which part do you doubt?

Ba82Ep3
08-18-2011, 11:08 AM
200whp. You will need either cams or a bump in compression to see that. Maybe 190...

spartan
08-18-2011, 11:13 AM
200whp. You will need either cams or a bump in compression to see that. Maybe 190...

I'm down with that :)

Ba82Ep3
08-18-2011, 11:14 AM
Definitely. 190 is nothin to sneeze at. Its a big jump over what the anemic a3 has to offer...

MadLorEP3
08-18-2011, 11:31 AM
Heard good things about BISI as well...you probably can't go wrong with either place

spartan
08-18-2011, 11:38 AM
Heard good things about BISI as well...you probably can't go wrong with either place

Bisi is cheaper.
An my gf lives in Ontario.
Those are 2+ for bisi

T_Virus
08-18-2011, 12:15 PM
I'm pretty sure you hear this all the time, but why not swap the sri to a cai?

MBaG
08-18-2011, 12:32 PM
Makspeed in Temecula. I've heard Bisi's tuning isn't that great..

spartan
08-18-2011, 12:33 PM
I'm pretty sure you hear this all the time, but why not swap the sri to a cai?

no idea what those things are

MBaG
08-18-2011, 12:35 PM
no idea what those things are

Short ram intake to a cold air intake.

spartan
08-18-2011, 12:47 PM
Short ram intake to a cold air intake.
haha oh
na im not. ill be going turbo within the next year or so so im gonna leave it short ram.
Plus it's illegal

I'll check out makespeed, but all i can find is their fb page

05 hatch
08-18-2011, 12:51 PM
I'd definitely switch to a cold air intake before your tune. I've been tuned by bisi twice. He's great and very helpful. I've heard good things about church also. I would like to be tuned by him too to see differences.

MBaG
08-18-2011, 01:09 PM
I'll check out makespeed, but all i can find is their fb page

http://mak-speed.com/ -- they don't have much online, because they barely opened up.. but they're gna be big.

The owner is Myles Bautista. Not sure if anyone is familiar with him, but he's the founder of REVHARD. And back then, he was breaking records. He's getting back into the scene just now. If you call him, tell him Matt (with the EP) told you to go to him.

spartan
08-18-2011, 01:34 PM
I'd definitely switch to a cold air intake before your tune. I've been tuned by bisi twice. He's great and very helpful. I've heard good things about church also. I would like to be tuned by him too to see differences.

That's what i needed to know!
But why should i switch to cold air?


http://mak-speed.com/ -- they don't have much online, because they barely opened up.. but they're gna be big.

The owner is Myles Bautista. Not sure if anyone is familiar with him, but he's the founder of REVHARD. And back then, he was breaking records. He's getting back into the scene just now. If you call him, tell him Matt (with the EP) told you to go to him.

Wow dude thanks for that!
I'll definitely go by there next time im in the area!

Distance
08-18-2011, 01:35 PM
are you running kpro or aem? i didnt see it in your first post.


edit: nm saw that your running kpro.

MBaG
08-18-2011, 01:43 PM
That's what i needed to know!
But why should i switch to cold air?


So your engine breathes cold air; haha.

Reelg09
08-18-2011, 02:00 PM
I've been to both places but have been very pleased with Bisi's Tune that I refer all my friends there. Great guy, Service and Staff. They
went above and beyond and were able to secure me with a package deal for tuning.

j0000stin
08-18-2011, 03:06 PM
I've been to both places but have been very pleased with Bisi's Tune that I refer all my friends there. Great guy, Service and Staff. They
went above and beyond and were able to secure me with a package deal for tuning.


bisi's troll! haha

[QUOTE=spartan;915089]That's what i needed to know!
But why should i switch to cold air?
QUOTE]

cai makes more power because its getting what the motor needs, COLD AIR! haha

sri soaks a lot of hot air since its directed towards the back of the motor where most of the heat is expelled

spartan
08-19-2011, 03:04 PM
Looks like im going with bisi.
Thanks dudes!
I've had cold air an short ram before an sri feels a lot better, from my experiences.
I don't have a wheel well on my driver side so a lot of air is duct to the short ram.
Maybe i should make a heat shield for the other side.

Another question, typically how long would a tune like this take?

superchargedk20
08-19-2011, 05:47 PM
Definitely. 190 is nothin to sneeze at. Its a big jump over what the anemic a3 has to offer...
Is church the Dyno that reads super high? He might hit 200 if thats the case

02TWSI
08-19-2011, 05:49 PM
Is church the Dyno that reads super high? He might hit 200 if thats the case


Churchs dyno on average adds 6-10whp.

02TWSI
08-19-2011, 05:50 PM
Bisi is a really cool guy and he's very responsive on Facebook

Ba82Ep3
08-19-2011, 06:28 PM
Is church the Dyno that reads super high? He might hit 200 if thats the case

LOL tru that...

spartan
08-20-2011, 12:31 PM
Is church the Dyno that reads super high? He might hit 200 if thats the case

haha! NICE!!
Looks like bisi is still the beter choice.

AKEP
09-11-2011, 11:22 PM
i heard bisi was pretty magical, his specialty is not the kseries but he gets it done, pretty well i might add. look up his vids of tuning k series. they sound mean.

da9b16
09-14-2011, 07:26 AM
I am not sure about bisi's k series stuff. I have been working in the cb7/ ce1 world for around 10 years and by far he is the BEST at what he does with the f series. I would imagine with the same attention he has paid to the f/h/d/b series he would be paying to the K.
I mean what company do you know of that makes a header on a non vtec motor that dyno proven produces 33whp? That is simply put amazing. If I lived near him I would be there for a tune in a heart beat. Lucky for me I live near T1 and some other good ones. Good luck on whatever you decide to do but if I were in your shoes I would go see him.

Jpax
10-20-2011, 01:18 AM
I would trust Bisi , hes a great guy meet him a few times at time attacks in CA, and Sema a few times as well.

If you can get in and get work done, you can trust it will be worth the time and effort.

fEPst3r
10-20-2011, 01:33 AM
Churchs dyno reads higher because its power made to the hub not the wheel so subtract 7-8%

AKEP
10-20-2011, 03:35 AM
It looks like bisi uses a dynapack? or is that a churches dyno? same thing?

fEPst3r
10-20-2011, 10:50 AM
church uses a dynopack not sure what bisi uses

02TWSI
10-20-2011, 11:56 AM
I thought that bisi used churchs dyno

AKEP
10-25-2011, 07:57 AM
im tripping, i keep hearing "churchs dyno" like it is it's own thing. im guessing church's is another shop?

spartan
10-25-2011, 01:19 PM
Yeah so i was able to speak with an engineer(im guessing cuz he knew his shit) from Bisimoto yesterday, in person an this thread actually came up in the conversation.
he informed me they have they're own Dyno they use to tune cars.
And was telling me that the AEM EMS is easier to tune then the kpro, even if he was just trying to sell me product i was impressed by the amount of average time it would take to tune with AEM ecu compared to the Kpro system. But with that said i don't have a crazy tune, basically a swap n bolt ons, Akep will be helping me out hopefully!
once i boost i'll definitely be knocking on Bisimoto's door.
For those that said Bisi doesn't know k series couldn't be more wrong. The awe if the waiting room will have you biting your tongue.
the vast amount of awards an trophies fill the room so shiny you have to squint when you look directly at them haha!

AKEP
10-26-2011, 08:53 AM
i think i heard he's a mechanical engineer, so once he has the motors theory down he pretty much owns it. pretty sure he knows everything 2 weeks after release lol

gtolio
10-26-2011, 09:00 AM
im tripping, i keep hearing "churchs dyno" like it is it's own thing. im guessing church's is another shop?

It's a pretty well known shop. Hondata even uses them.

http://www.hondata.com/dynok20a2guardian.html

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/htup_0805_shawn_church_automotive_testing/index.html

MBaG
10-26-2011, 02:05 PM
i think i heard he's a mechanical engineer, so once he has the motors theory down he pretty much owns it. pretty sure he knows everything 2 weeks after release lol

i think bisi is an aerospace engineer.

JaydmEp3
11-30-2011, 09:29 PM
how much is bisi charging u for a tune? I needa have one done once I get my kpro this weekend.

spartan
01-05-2012, 10:42 PM
i forgot how much he charges but he charges more with kpro. and it takes longer.

fEPst3r
01-06-2012, 12:19 AM
both tuners are good and both are well known. im not saying anyone is better than anyone but i myself have been tuned by church twice and hes made the numbers i wanted. 272 hp and 187 torque on a k20a2. church charges 425 for kpro, i beieve aem ems is cheaper, you can check his site for pricing.