Im biting the bullet

[superchargedk20]

Dropping my ep off monday at my shop. Boosting to 13 psi. Hoping to make 350 whp on my stock k24. Hope the clutch holds lol. Stay tuned. Current numbers are 327 whp 306 tq

[Euro-Yellow-Ep3]

good luck bro, post the chart up

[Ba82Ep3]

What happened to "300whp is enough"? lol

:thumbu:

[superchargedk20]

Who said that? How do u even remember that lol

[04EP3Hatch]

i remember that too! ALLLLLLLLL this because dave doesnt wanna hang around at the 327 mark to race me on april 1st :( glad im having a conversation with mr. harris about 12 psi right now.. cant let you have all the fun poppy! but either way, good luck! i dont see why you wont make 350, what did you make 327 on boost wise

[Ba82Ep3]

Who said that? How do u even remember that lol

You did... "Mr.Cold Air and i had lotsa horsepowers this morning! I dont need any more power..." :hand:

I dont forget much of anything... :mangel: :mbiggrin:

[Ba82Ep3]

i remember that too! ALLLLLLLLL this because dave doesnt wanna hang around at the 327 mark...

More like he doesnt wanna get waxed by a k20a3... haha!

[Euro-Yellow-Ep3]

Lmao. Lets get some runs in at the Hudson Valley meet

[04EP3Hatch]

That is surely the plan! There is 4 turbo ep's goin so it's a definate haha

[superchargedk20]

Hardy har har. U guys are soooooo funny. U hush Dan. Remember ur signature used to say "fuk turbo". So I don't wana hear a peep from u!

[Ba82Ep3]

ooo sick burn... :mbiggrin:








Def post up info tho. Im definitely interested in the results. :mwink:

[superchargedk20]

ooo sick burn... :mbiggrin:




Def post up info tho. Im definitely interested in the results. :mwink:

He even still has a pic of his supercharger for his avatar! Oh wait MY SUPERCHARGER!

[sleepy ep3]

wish i could go...




*lurk*

[monjarassi]

i made 350 on 14psi, you shouldnt have an issue..

[Civic5lug]

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Still stok as they come :thumbu: :rockon:

[superchargedk20]

i made 350 on 14psi, you shouldnt have an issue..


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Still stok as they come :thumbu: :rockon:

What motor are u guys on. I have a k24a1. Just making sure 13 psi is ok. My mechanic is a lil worried about going to 13 on a stock block. I am a lil too.

[Civic5lug]

What motor are u guys on. I have a k24a1. Just making sure 13 psi is ok. My mechanic is a lil worried about going to 13 on a stock block. I am a lil too.

ooooooo, I have the k24a2. You'll be fine. What clutch are you running?

[superchargedk20]

Rsx-s spec stage 2 plus. Act streetlite fly

[Ba82Ep3]

My mechanic is a lil worried about going to 13 on a stock block. I am a lil too.

As long as he pulls a lil timing across the board and tunes into it you should be fine. 13psi in the grand scheme of things isnt a lot on a healthy block... its too much ignition advance and/or too much RPM that kills k24a1 rods...

[04EP3Hatch]

hey that supercharger was MINE!!! i didnt ditch her for some snail like... oh yea NVM haha

[sleepy ep3]

As long as he pulls a lil timing across the board and tunes into it you should be fine. 13psi in the grand scheme of things isnt a lot on a healthy block... its too much ignition advance and/or too much RPM that kills k24a1 rods...

Have u actually looked at a k24 rod? Shit is small. I'd be worried too

[monjarassi]

What motor are u guys on. I have a k24a1. Just making sure 13 psi is ok. My mechanic is a lil worried about going to 13 on a stock block. I am a lil too.

same one as you

[superchargedk20]

Are they as weak as a3 rods? If people push the a3 to 13 14 psi. I should be ok?

[superchargedk20]

same one as you

How much power u making . It's stock? I thought urs was built?

[monjarassi]

How much power u making . It's stock? I thought urs was built?

No the a1 was bone stock on a revhard kit made 350 on 14 psi.

I later did vtec killer and threw a rod making 410 on 10 psi reving it to 8k on the dyno

[superchargedk20]

First thats awesome on ur a1. Second Wtf were u thinking reving to 8 k ?!?!?!

[Ba82Ep3]

Have u actually looked at a k24 rod? Shit is small. I'd be worried too

Yep. Ive had my hands in every USDM k out there except the new k24z.

Its excessive ignition advance that snaps rods. The downward force (compression stroke) of 13psi is magnified by excessive ignition advance. As long as the rod doesnt have to cope with shoving a piston against 13psi, 30 degrees of cam advance, AND try to hold itself together at 8k... it will do just fine.

There is a balance of power to be made without excessive igntion advance and/or max RPM on the stock rods and any given psi. Adding thicker/stronger rods would of course allow the exact same setup to push the ignition advance/RPM combo higher for more power. The PSI alone isnt the culprit.

[Ba82Ep3]

Maybe if ignition advance is explained it would be easier to see what i mean.

Ignition advance in degrees is when the spark plug is ignited in the pistons relation to TDC on the compression stroke. The greater the degrees, the further the piston is down in the cylinder, the greater the rods angle is in relation to the piston and crankshaft. The greater the angle, the greater the chance for rod breakage.

For discussions sake, lets say 10psi at 20 degrees of advance is equal to 30psi at 0 degrees of advance. This would mean a rod could see the same stress at either PSI. If 30psi at 0 degrees of advance is within the stress limits of the rod, you could creep to 5 degrees of advance and in theory the rod would see less stress... than 10psi and increasing to 25 degrees of advance, because the piston is that much further down into the cylinder, and the angle of the rod is that much greater.

Again this is a generality, and more is always involved than what these simple comparisons list (for instance, any given piston rods shear and tensile strength). But maybe it can help explain why rod thickness of the k24a1 isnt really a concern for a PROPERLY tuned engine.

The idea is finding the balance of power between ignition advance and psi with the given engine setup. Obviously a 30psi setup would be best if it was complemented with less compression, a ported TB, IM, head, etc. The greater the air flow the smoother the pathways need to be to reduce power robbing heat caused by friction/turbulence alone.

[superchargedk20]

Cool man. I'm not to worried. They play it safe where I bring it. My tunes are never aggressive ones

[monjarassi]

First thats awesome on ur a1. Second Wtf were u thinking reving to 8 k ?!?!?!

it had a type s oil pump, and really thats all needed to rev higher...

[Euro-Yellow-Ep3]

I'm looking to go Turbo and Vtec killer. What do u thing ill make at 10 psi. Also my motor is completely stock with a rbc

[monjarassi]

I'm looking to go Turbo and Vtec killer. What do u thing ill make at 10 psi. Also my motor is completely stock with a rbc

if u have the a3 you looking to be in the mid 300's and only thing youll really need to upgrade your oil pump to support your mods in the head..