So how many of yal still use the K24a1?

[playap07]

So how many of yal still use the K24a1? I see alot of people using the k24a2, what you all got no love for the a1 anymore?:mcool:

[gtolio]

k24a1 is a great motor. That's what I plan on using when I switch over. From what I recall, people first using K24s were all using the A2. It was only after that people started using the A1.

[mitchlikesbikes]

most people use a k24a1 if they're planning on b00sting it. k24a2s are a better engine for all motor IMO:)

[playap07]

Thats what i figured, that it was a excelent motor and superb for boost. Its been a while since i last did some research on whats the current new swap hype these days. Last thing i remember, everyone wanted to do the k20/k24 hybrid (k20a2 head/k24a1 bottom). Indeed i did read at one point on the k24a2, i found it was more of a motor preference for an all motor setup but we got these turboed a2s running around now days which is still cool. I was currious as too if people were getting rid of their a1s and going for these a2s now days for a boosted set up.

*Side note*. I plan on getting the k24a1 and comparing it with AKEP's a2 in the boosted realm of performace. Just something to look forward too. I wouldnt mind starting a friendly debate on which motor is better for boost and which is better for all motor.

[Blah1219]

I would say a k24a1 with a killer vtec setup. You have that big lobe effect to kill some of that monster turbo lag at low rpms. Maybe throw in some k24a2 rods/ crank to maintain that power but have that k24a1 pistons for a semi low and safe cr.

[playap07]

I would say a k24a1 with a killer vtec setup. You have that big lobe effect to kill some of that monster turbo lag at low rpms. Maybe throw in some k24a2 rods/ crank to maintain that power but have that k24a1 pistons for a semi low and safe cr.

Thats exactly what AKEP just told me, he said "the A1s 2 lobes are going to suck." I prob wont swap out cams till later after the comparison unless he adds cams to his. The A1s block is going to remain stock though.

[gtolio]

I'd say stock A1, ARP headstuds and boost the shit out of it. Don't worry about the head or anything else. The displacement will spool it up just fine unless you're running something crazy.

[playap07]

I'd say stock A1, ARP headstuds and boost the shit out of it. Don't worry about the head or anything else. The displacement will spool it up just fine unless you're running something crazy.


Thats the master plan!!!!!!!!!

[gtolio]

500whp all day.

[playap07]

Whats your setup? Are you swapped also?

[AttarixEp]

Cams way way before head work. K-heads flow like crazy out of the box. However, I'm building a K24a2. But the k24 bottom end regardless is amazing for boost.

[sleepy ep3]

I'd say stock A1, ARP headstuds and boost the shit out of it. Don't worry about the head or anything else. The displacement will spool it up just fine unless you're running something crazy.

Not necessarily. Depends what turbo. Even k24's have a bit of trouble spooling with gt35/precision 62/62 or larger. I guess it all depends what what you want out of it. My 62/62 takes a second to spool, but when it does, it's pretty instant.

[AKEP]

honestly best turbo all around that i could find is a gt30r variant. 35r is a bit too big but runs the best efficiency, on paper anyways.

pat i got some plans for you.

[differentK]

id run a lightly reinforced (type s oil pump/ arp head studs) k24a4 on boost for a budget boosted motor. the motors go for like $400 so blowing it up wouldnt be the main concern, more like traction. with 500whp and 400wtq it would be pretty solid.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=63867

[gtolio]

Not necessarily. Depends what turbo. Even k24's have a bit of trouble spooling with gt35/precision 62/62 or larger. I guess it all depends what what you want out of it. My 62/62 takes a second to spool, but when it does, it's pretty instant.

Yeah, I guess it depends on what you define lag as. I'm running a Turbonetics 60-1 (granted, a little bit smaller than a 6262, but still a mid-sized turbo) and it takes a second too, but I think that helps me hook up a bit better as well. A friend of mine had almost the exact same setup with the same turbo on his B16 and it took all day for it to spool compared to mine. I'm sure a K24 would spool it that much faster than my A3. It's all relative and displacement certainly puts it a step in the right direction.


id run a lightly reinforced (type s oil pump/ arp head studs) k24a4 on boost for a budget boosted motor. the motors go for like $400 so blowing it up wouldnt be the main concern, more like traction. with 500whp and 400wtq it would be pretty solid.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=63867

Ha! That's so funny, I'm friends with that guy. When you were describing it, I was like "that sounds just like Mo's car..." lol Then I clicked the link.

It was fucking fast, let me tell you. I still wonder about the K24A4 rods, but he ran it like that for years (literally years) with no issues. I think he just got something new though.

[differentK]

thats pretty funny- ive been watching his thread for a while now. my shop has an 02 ep just sitting around collecting dust because the owner skipped out on the repair bill. ive been trying to convince the shop owner to do the k24a4 turbo swap for some time now- unfortunately he isnt the biggest import fan lol

[playap07]

id run a lightly reinforced (type s oil pump/ arp head studs) k24a4 on boost for a budget boosted motor. the motors go for like $400 so blowing it up wouldnt be the main concern, more like traction. with 500whp and 400wtq it would be pretty solid.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=63867

Whaaaa!!!! Thats fucking badass!!!!! Thats something i would love to accomplish that on the k24a1 Stock except for the E85! Beast Mooooode!!


honestly best turbo all around that i could find is a gt30r variant. 35r is a bit too big but runs the best efficiency, on paper anyways.

pat i got some plans for you.
O hell yea im diggin those plans you sent me. i might modifiy them a bit but for the most part i like i like!


Yeah, I guess it depends on what you define lag as. I'm running a Turbonetics 60-1 (granted, a little bit smaller than a 6262, but still a mid-sized turbo) and it takes a second too, but I think that helps me hook up a bit better as well. A friend of mine had almost the exact same setup with the same turbo on his B16 and it took all day for it to spool compared to mine. I'm sure a K24 would spool it that much faster than my A3. It's all relative and displacement certainly puts it a step in the right direction.
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Yea im sure that a turbo on a K24 should deff spool up way quicker than it would on a k20.

[superchargedk20]

I love my a1 best investment ever!!!

[sleepy ep3]

I love my K24Z1. Great motor, good torque.

[Guardian]

I've been rolling hard on the same k24a1 for about 5-6 years

[sleepy ep3]

I've been rolling hard on the same k24a1 for about 5-6 years

Where you been at fool? Saw your car on Competition Clutchs website. How's the twin disc holding up? I just ordered mine from them.

[Guardian]

Where you been at fool? Saw your car on Competition Clutchs website. How's the twin disc holding up? I just ordered mine from them.

I love the twin! I've been pretty bored of forums and have been too busy working on other ppls cars to get enough time in on mine.

[1sicvic]

Help is needed i have a k24a1 block and a tsx head i wanna boost it but i was told it wouldnt work is that true? I need as much info as i can get please help

[Guardian]

Dont ever listen to the person that said that again

[sleepy ep3]

Dont ever listen to the person that said that again
:mbiggrin:

[Guardian]

Help is needed i have a k24a1 block and a tsx head i wanna boost it but i was told it wouldnt work is that true? I need as much info as i can get please help

Hey ask him why, I'm curious of what he thinks

[sleepy ep3]

Hey ask him why, I'm curious of what he thinks

My guess is he thinks it's a compression issue, that the starting compression would be too high.

[AKEP]

that would make no sense. lol.

[Manny Kid 15]

Ok so I am really debating whether to get a k24a2 or a1... From what I have read and been informed is that the internals on the a2 are better than the a1 but for some reason I hear that the a1 is boost ready... I need some info about both cause I am taking my car to the shop this Wednesday to get swapped with either the A1 or A2....

I have the EMUSA turbo kit, ID 1000cc injectors, BDL fuel rail, RBC manifold, 6 puck clutch kit, I know there is more just can't think right now please let me know what you guys think would be better

[AKEP]

a1. good luck fitting that under the ac line.

[sleepy ep3]

a1. good luck fitting that under the ac line.

nothing a hammer can't fix

[iDom]

From what I have read and been informed is that the internals on the a2 are better than the a1 but for some reason I hear that the a1 is boost ready

Yes, k24a2 has better internals.. "Beefier" internals and has individual oil squirters for each cylinder.. That's just to name a few things. I don't know them all.. But, if you're going NA and not building the engine.. I'd go with the TSX k24a2. If you're going boost (which I see that you are) I would get the CR-V k24a1.

The reason the CR-V k24a1 motor is better for boost is because it's lower compression.

k24a2 compression ratio is 10.5:1
k24a1 compression ratio is 9.6:1

Built NA/All motor cars will have a very high compression ratio
Built motors for boost will have a relatively low compression ratio

Those are the basics.

[Manny Kid 15]

Ok so I am pickin up my k24a1 tomorrow and dropping it off at demonwerkz to get swapped and boosted

[iDom]

Ok so I am pickin up my k24a1 tomorrow and dropping it off at demonwerkz to get swapped and boosted

Awe come on! Where's the fun in that? Strip some bolts, bang some knuckles, and drink some beers putting it in. Take it there when you want to get it tuned :mwink:

[Manny Kid 15]

Awe come on! Where's the fun in that? Strip some bolts, bang some knuckles, and drink some beers putting it in. Take it there when you want to get it tuned :mwink:

It would be nice to do my own install but I really don't have the time or space for that.... I have always liked working on my own cars but for this big of a job I am letting a professional do it lol

[playap07]

I've been rolling hard on the same k24a1 for about 5-6 years

ooo snap!!! Your baby still up and kicking! Thats badass! Anything new with yours?


I love the twin! I've been pretty bored of forums and have been too busy working on other ppls cars to get enough time in on mine.
Nevermind you answered my question. Good to see you still jump on once in a while. Hey is your turbo and manifold twin scroll?



Awe come on! Where's the fun in that? Strip some bolts, bang some knuckles, and drink some beers putting it in. Take it there when you want to get it tuned :mwink:
Well said! I feel the same way.


Ok so I am pickin up my k24a1 tomorrow and dropping it off at demonwerkz to get swapped and boosted

try it on your own and you will feel accomplished and save alot more money other than paying someone to do it. As a matter of Fact when i installed my turbo kit, Guardian kept chimming in with some advice and tech help, so i have him to thank for that accomplishment of mine. I installed my first turbo kit and im not even a certified mechanic and the a3 is 50k deep in turbo mileage and still going strong minus the clutch.. Good luck on the engine swap though bro! Hope it comes out beastly for you.

Time 4 the k24a1 swap now though. I need more power for the DD.

[Guardian]

No k24a1 is 9.6:1

And their are no ac line issues with k24 swap


Playa- its single scroll. I'll be doing things to the EP soon

[iDom]

No k24a1 is 9.6:1

And their are no ac line issues with k24 swap


Playa- its single scroll. I'll be doing things to the EP soon

You're right, my mistake. I looked it up on wiki real quick and accidentally gave the compression for the k23a1 from the RDX that's right above the k24a1.. Haha

[AKEP]

And their are no ac line issues with k24 swap

not with the swap itself, the turbo if you go with a log mani. i think the greddy turbo fits but anything thats like a 30r wont.

[playap07]

I'll be doing things to the EP soon

What you got planned for her?

[Danielsle]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/2950611779.html

Good deal? :O Should I just buy it for the hell of it? haha...

[gtolio]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/2950611779.html

Good deal? :O Should I just buy it for the hell of it? haha...

Yep, good deal with that amount of miles on it, especially with the IM and header. Normal that I've seen is around $600 for 60k on the A1s. Ask him if the alternator and starter are included as well.