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Powers
09-11-2012, 10:05 PM
Alright so I just got my car back with kpro and have a couple questions. Number one is I have a green light the shape of a key flashing on the cluster and need to know how to get it to go off. I always think my blinkers on now. Second I upload baep3's hioc tune and it runs great with 0 knocks but I think i need more fuel the ratio goes between 14.1 to 16.1 on full throttle. And when I just let of the gas in gear to slow down it spikes to about 27.1 to 30.1. So how would I go about adding more fuel on the entire map. When Im just cruising it sits right around 14.1 to 14.7

Please...help a brother out :tehehyper:

04sidriver
09-12-2012, 04:41 AM
To take the key bliking off you would have to go to a dealer and give them this. You would need to take your laptop also. It takes about 10-15 min.
http://www.hondata.com/immobilizer.html

To add more fuel I believe it is in fuel trim but there is prob more of an expert that can answer it better.

Powers
09-12-2012, 11:52 AM
Thanks for that its a good bit of information. Now just really need details on how to get some more fuel in there.

bijong21
09-12-2012, 11:20 PM
is it possible to kinda just "reflash" the ecu using k-pro if the only mods i have are i/h/e? or would it be a time consuming tuning process that i'd have to learn how to use k-pro...well like a pro?

HFPcivicSI
09-13-2012, 08:00 AM
is it possible to kinda just "reflash" the ecu using k-pro if the only mods i have are i/h/e? or would it be a time consuming tuning process that i'd have to learn how to use k-pro...well like a pro?

Kpro comes with preloaded maps to most likely get your car running, and running better than what it was (making more power, gas mileage ect).

There are people that I know now that will tune your car for like $30-40 online, just keep sending the data logs and he will get your car running awesome.

bijong21
09-13-2012, 12:09 PM
so these basemaps that come with k-pro for specific engines is pretty much the reflash we pay 295$ for?

Slip_Angle
09-13-2012, 08:02 PM
Alright so I just got my car back with kpro and have a couple questions. Number one is I have a green light the shape of a key flashing on the cluster and need to know how to get it to go off. I always think my blinkers on now. Second I upload baep3's hioc tune and it runs great with 0 knocks but I think i need more fuel the ratio goes between 14.1 to 16.1 on full throttle. And when I just let of the gas in gear to slow down it spikes to about 27.1 to 30.1. So how would I go about adding more fuel on the entire map. When Im just cruising it sits right around 14.1 to 14.7

Please...help a brother out :tehehyper:

Full throttle A/F should be 13.0 - 13.5. You calibration must not have lean cut enabled if you can do a full throttle run and hit 16.1 A/F. This is dangerous to the engine and you should stop doing full throttle runs until fuel has been added. Your cruise A/F should be 14.7. When off throttle and in gear the A/F will spike to 27+ because the engine is not being supplied fuel. This is normal.

Ok, to add fuel you need to start with the low cam (off vtec) and follow the log to determine which cam angle and what rpm to add fuel. Do the same for the high cam (Vtec on). If you don't know what you're doing you can make the maps bad fast.

If you want, send me your calibration with the full throttle run and I can help.

sincityep3
09-20-2012, 08:37 PM
do you have a link to baep3's .kal calibration

Powers
09-20-2012, 10:43 PM
Sorry guys I havent been on in a while I just broke down and went and got it tuned on the dyno. I was to scared to blow it up while trying to figure it out. Ill find that link in a second.

Here it is http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?44703-Share-your-Kpro-Emanage-AEM-EMS-etc-tune-and-setup-here/page3

revned3182
09-25-2012, 05:42 AM
Immobilizer Question... so I've installed K-Pro on my A3 engine...
I am going to Honda (or is it Acura?) Dealership to reset my immobilizer to do this.
However, once I do my K24a2 swap, do I need to reprogram my keys again?

04sidriver
09-25-2012, 06:17 AM
Immobilizer Question... so I've installed K-Pro on my A3 engine...
I am going to Honda (or is it Acura?) Dealership to reset my immobilizer to do this.
However, once I do my K24a2 swap, do I need to reprogram my keys again?

yes

revned3182
09-25-2012, 06:24 PM
wow... short answer... no explanation. people telling me different things. anyone else?

jwdep3
09-25-2012, 06:50 PM
Pretty sure you don't need to reprogram your keys when you swap engines. All you'll have to do is upload a base map then to get it to a tuner. Did you send your ecu to hondata or did you get another ecu and send that one to hondata? You won't have to reprogram the immobilizer if you sent your ecu.

04sidriver
09-26-2012, 04:17 AM
Pretty sure you don't need to reprogram your keys when you swap engines. All you'll have to do is upload a base map then to get it to a tuner. Did you send your ecu to hondata or did you get another ecu and send that one to hondata? You won't have to reprogram the immobilizer if you sent your ecu.

you will have to reprogram because the engine swap uses a new .kal. the keys were programmed to teh old kal.

revned3182
09-26-2012, 07:33 AM
again... different informations...


Pretty sure you don't need to reprogram your keys when you swap engines. All you'll have to do is upload a base map then to get it to a tuner. Did you send your ecu to hondata or did you get another ecu and send that one to hondata? You won't have to reprogram the immobilizer if you sent your ecu.

well... i dropped by www.teknotik.com and they already have a prb unit ready... they installed the kpro with it... using the base map for reg. gas.




you will have to reprogram because the engine swap uses a new .kal. the keys were programmed to teh old kal.


so guess its best that i leave it be, and deal with it later after the k24a2 swap.

it's a bit distracting, but i guess i'll try to cope with it.


... actually in the end... The technicians from honda dealership didn't know what they were dealing with.
despite, the PDF instructions from hondata that ive printed out for them.
its as if they didn't want to deal with it.
and still wanted to get paid, even though nothing was done to the car.

AKEP
12-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Immobilizer Question... so I've installed K-Pro on my A3 engine...
I am going to Honda (or is it Acura?) Dealership to reset my immobilizer to do this.
However, once I do my K24a2 swap, do I need to reprogram my keys again?


yes

Wrong. i signed in just to tell you you're wrong.

I have my original ecu kpro'd and turbo k24a2 swap and I tuned it all myself. if the keys and ecu have been paired then thats all you ever need. If you kpro'd your original ECU then you just have to enable the immobilizer on your kal and reupload to kpro to get rid of the blinking green key.

I think most of the premade kals in kmanager have immobilizer disabled except the stock kals. If you bought a whole kpro ecu and it ISN'T your orginal, you need to bring it to Honda to get it paired so you can enable it in kmanager/kpro to get rid of the blinking key.

flashing a kal to kpro gives you the basic tune to get you running, no one persons kal is going to work perfect for you even if you have the same mods, you have to get it on a dyno and tuned to get the most out of it. you can use someone else's tune to get you going but dont rely on it to run perfect or get the most power from.

so again, immobilizer is not affected by kal/tune uploads. you can get it matched without a tune and get a tune later, and do whatever you want. you will not lose your immobilizer pairing by uploading kals to it. you can not upload immobilizer pairing through kpro. you can only enable and disable the immobilizer for security, hondata put that feature in there so people get get around older car swaps and so you could buy a whole ecu and not encounter downtime. nifty shit.

carry on.

Ba82Ep3
12-21-2012, 07:21 PM
yep... that just happened. lol