so i'm debating on trying to mod my ep3, and have heard that kpro is the best mod for the money.
but what would the gains be? and modifications are going to be kept to a minimum.
would it be worth my time?
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so i'm debating on trying to mod my ep3, and have heard that kpro is the best mod for the money.
but what would the gains be? and modifications are going to be kept to a minimum.
would it be worth my time?
when you say mods will be kept to a minimum, what are your plans? If only i/h/e is your plan then you could go for just the reflash. I personally have i/h/e right now and have bigger plans in the future, so if I don't buy a used reflash in the next 2 weeks, then I'll order k-pro on June 26th!! But I am leaning towards k-pro so I can run the low octane tune when I don't want to fork over the extra cash at the pump.
a kpro reflash?
i already have an aem sri. i might go with some sort of exhaust, but doubtful. cops in my area are anal about loud exhaust...
in essence, would it be a good, beneficial mod, without any other adders?
hondata has a reflash that is less than k-pro. If you are most likely just going to stick with your sri and possibly an exhaust. I would just go with the reflash. K-pro is the key that opens endless doors, like cams, swaps, forced induction, etc. But like I said if your modding stops at intake and maybe exhaust, I would just get a reflash.
thanks!
I'm still curious about the original question. Whether it's k-pro or reflash, what would the gains be if it's just a stock A3 with an intake? The higher rev limit would be cool (not sure if the reflash does that), but would you actually get a noticeable increase in power?
noticleble increase....mmmm:mrolleyes: i dont know i had a hard time tellin if i gained some more hp with just a intake exhaust and k-pro! i know on high oct tune gas disapears quick as fuck but the car chirps on 1 n 2nd gear harder than it did with just the int and exh. with the low oct tune i got some hella good gas mileage 350 miles per gall give or take some! ill tell you though the rev limiter for when the car is parked is gone and you can raise the rev limiter but what for? our car doesnt have a good flowing head! you would just put your engine in danger imo! its a FUCKING GOOD ASS MOD THOUGH! a must have! :mbiggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorachagi
also in another post some one said that reflashing the ecu means making it dumber. they said that when you reflash the ecu you take away the learning ability to adapt. look around these post. you will find it
350 mpg!? the hell kinda tune is that. your gas must last for weeks on end.:mtongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by playap07
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Originally Posted by danielakatoxic
lol smartass :msmooch:
i have the k100 its better than the reflash and not bad on the wallet. you could have the car tuned for whatever bolt ons you have. when i installed it i only had an intake and exhaust. the butt dyno felt a difference, nothing major but definately a difference.
well yes timing is advanced on a reflash. Which is why it is not safe to run nitrous with it. But as for the making the ecu dumb, I think that has no validation whatsoever. Of course there is the possibility of leaning out with a raceheader, which would mean that your ecu can not supply enough fuel, but that would mean your injectors are just maxed out(getting larger injectors though would not help I would assume unless you have k-pro). Just because there is a hondata reflash on the ecu does not mean that the ecu's ability to perform it's job has been diminished.Quote:
Originally Posted by playap07
My statement still stands and I think you could ask Talon or any other highly reputable member, that if your ONLY plans are intake and MAYBE an exhaust, then a reflash will be sufficient.
By "dumb" I think they mean that Kpro won't automatically retard timing when it detects knock (like the stock ECU).
I think they mean the reflash won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4angrybadgers
Both, actually. I just said Kpro because I was in the middle of helping someone else with Kpro issues. :mbiggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by EPSU3
so im planning on getting k-pro very soon and rolling stock right now. what you guys are saying is not to expect much improvement while stock? btw i plan on modding in the future this is just step 1.
i'd say it's a good step one, but you won't feel much of a difference. There is a high-octane tune that is designed for a stock car. That is the base tune that most build off of to create their own tune. I myself am ordering k-pro this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeth
I just put kpro in friday and it's great. The car runs smoother from 700rpm all the way to 7300. I'm gonna run my roomates h22a prelude in the next day or too and I'll be able to tell if its faster or not because we were dead even every time we raced before kpro so we'll see what happens. Now next week when the k24a1 goes in its a different story for him :whoo:
Could not have said it any better. It really depends on what you're after. The kpro will give you sufficient gains in which you have performance parts installed and you're looking to tune. Much more versatile than your average joe piggyback systems like vafc2 for example. I would not recommend wiping out your savings account to buy the kpro and be left with nothing to spend on additional parts. But rather try to do a intake, header, exhaust setup and tuning with kpro will give you much better gains than the setup without kpro.Quote:
Originally Posted by AUTiger
Another question to ask yourself is what you are aiming for in terms of performance, street or track setup?
Kpro is great seth but I would start with smaller mods first, they will put more of a smile on your face than just kpro alone. For the same price you would pay for kpro you could pick up a catback, intake, and possibly some drop springs. Thats how I started atleast and I wouldn't have changed anything from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeth
Kpro is a tool, its not a mod. Kpro is something you get to open up the potential of you car. If you drop k pro in with a CAI/SRI and an exhaust, the only gains u are getting with the kpro is from the almighty butt dyno. Now, with a proper tune, from someone who knows what they are doing, you may be able to squeeze a couple exta hp out. Tho when i dropped my kpro in with cai and exhaust, i noticed absolutely zero difference. If you are going to mod on a budget, k pro is not for you.
bumping this old thread - curious - if i want to keep the rest of the car stock, and just do this mod for 10whp or so, will it have any impact on fuel economy? someone said the premium gas tune burns quicker but if it's targeting stoich anyway i dont see how that would necessarily be the case.