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AMAZING!!! its unbelievable.. i love it. and it smells good. the black wax fills in the chips and swirls so theres no white residue anywhere. i highly recomend this for black cars.. could work well on a dark car like blue or green or something but def black.
where did you get it? autozone?
i second the shit out of this thread, its like 20 doll hairs but well worth it, my car always looks so damn fresh afterwards
autozone,advance. etc. walmart has a big spray bottle of the black box spray i just bought. works amazing to.. the black box is a pain in the ass. because it takes so fucking long. but its so worth it.
It is worth it, awesome for 20 bucks!
No swirls sound good but what about holograms?
Also is it a wax or a compound? How many washes does it take to wash the fillers out till you see the road chips again?
they actually make this for blue cars too ive used it its good, i prefer either turtle wax ice or nu finish personally
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Originally Posted by blueandgoldep3
I've used the turtle wax ice and didn't like it too much. I could be applying it wrong though :/ Maybe I'll try out the black box.
Black box is the way to go, its comparable to a good detail job if you are willing to invest 3 hours in it. 20 bucks worth spending unless you want to go swisswax.
just did the black box detail today. i agree is def. worth the money however i didnt really see much of a difference in luster of the finish. it did fill swirl marks and smaller chips accordingly, but i get the same exact look (shine, depth, appearance) from just doing the tw black quick detailer. either way the two bottles of the black quick detailer spray it came with made it worth the 15 bucks in itself
I'm a Griots Garage whore... I don't use fillers to cover swirl marks, I buff with a fine compound then apply wax. In fact, I spent 6 hours today detailing Racheal's exterior.
I started off with Griots Garage fine glass polish on the windows, then bathed her and then used a clay bar before machine polishing and waxing. Today was the first time in 6 months I've needed to polish because of swirl marks, and I only had swirl marks because my dumb ass used a dry microfiber to wipe off a couple of finger prints the other day.
Good man! Proper correction is the way to go. Sounds like you've got your methods down Yak.
"Waxing" with stuff like this just fills all the chips and scratches with glaze to trick the eye. It won't last, and it won't make a big difference.
ya thats fine and dandy if you have no life and can divot 6+ hours to detail a car that i am willing to bet ends up looking just as good as my 2 hour detail. good for you if you use the best products and take the most time on the finish, its just overkill to do it every time because its just going to get destroyed by everyday weather, driving, among the few. For those of us whom have children, its not like i can say " you know what, i am gonna go and spend 6 hours detailing my honda civic today, Evan you can watch some mickey mouse all day right?" don't know your backround of course just making assumptions but really at the end of the day your detailing a fucking civic
2 hours, and the right products/methods can do a hell of a job with correction, even on a low budget.
I wasn't trying to offend. I just hate seeing people spend their time and hard work on something that won't last and isn't doing any real correction. I'll agree that the Black Box does work well on really cleaning up the look of scratches that dull the finish, it does look good afterwards. I'm just more for permanency.
please, just shut up. just because you don't have the free time or desire to "detail a civic" doesn't mean nobody else should. i don't care if my car is a civic, i love putting in the extra time to make it look great. does your paint look like this in direct sunlight after the "black box" 2 hour detail?Quote:
Originally Posted by ep3k20
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...311-14-118.jpg
oh and after a quick wax it does still look like this, never got "destroyed" even through a utah winter by "everyday weather or driving"
Wanna spoon?
and just so were clear no one likes utah and your winters dont have shit on colorado. my car is not full of swirl marks and chips, as the entire car has been wet sanded and buffed before. that process took three days to complete, so in doing so the mirror reflection it puts off does not require a ton of detail to put back right. i am saying my quick detailer after washing the vehicle makes my car look impeccable and i too can read a goddamn news paper within its reflection. my entire gripe is that i do not nor want to take 6+ hours each and every week to detail the latter, as it becomes asinine rather fast. the black box detail i TRIED out was to see if the luster and/or depth was improved, which is was not "by a whole lot" so dont be so quick to tell me to shut up ski cuntry. not sure if its reflection is good take a good lookQuote:
Originally Posted by mitchlikesbikes
http://www.nitnoi.net/misc/IMAG0091.jpg
Actually, I'm a divorced father of three, and I had my two youngest (6yo and 7yo) yesterday, even though it was not my weekend, and they helped me with my project. And no offense, but my car is pretty fucking spotless, considering it was freshly repainted last year (except the roof), so I doubt your car looks as good. But I would bet your car looks a lot better then my daily driver. Look man, I applaud you for doing what you can to keep up the appearance of your car, but with a little more time and some sort of compound you could actually fix the problem instead of covering it. Hell, if you lived closer I would offer to help you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ep3k20
Oh, and it doesn't matter what badge the car wears, I am anal about taking car of my stuff, you should see how organized my toolboxes are lol.
Edit: as I have said previously, this is the first time in 6 months I've needed to remove swirl marks. Normally I just wash her twice a week (by hand of coarse) and a bimonthly waxing. I wouldn't have had swirl marks had I not wiped her down with a dry rag.
Thank you sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsvtec
again, i am not trying to cover swirl marks or chips or anything, i am saying i TRIED the product to see how well it performed. i can say if i really wanted to i could spend 6 hours detailing my car but as an anal retentive person as i am, i literally wash my car each and every week and mainly just try to protect its finish in between super detail jobs that uses professional compounds and such. my cars finish is probably the nicest of any black car i have ever owned to date and agreed even tho its a "civic" i too still try to maintain the highest level of clarity when it comes to my finish on my car. i would not dump 15k into a cars motor aside from its resale value just to let the car's paint to go to shit. i was using the reference of honda civic purely as example. it was not intented to offend anyone, so if it did, my apologies. im not starting a shit storm and i know i am not the only person with kids, but as busy a person i am, it is rather hard to fully detail 4 cars that i do own. just to clarifiy, my car is also spotless. the fact that the car is now pushing almost ten years old and looks BETTER than brand new si's off the lot says a lot. i have countless people ask the car has been re painted, and are blown away when i say all original paint. i think you may have me all wrong lol my car does not have cosmetic problems whatsoever, (ok maybe one or two blemishes) i was merely stating that in the amount of 6+ hours that it takes you to "fully detail" your car, mine will guarantee look just as good in the amount time of 2+ hours due simply to the fact that it has been garaged its whole life, and the fact it has been wet sanded and buffed last year. quick detailer is solely meant to deepen the shine and give a TEMPORARY coat to the car in between washes....which is every weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Drunken Yak inc
so you're saying you've done a major detail before and you're knocking on it as if it's a waste of time?
the previous owner of my car fucked the paint up royally, so it's not my fault that i have to spend a little more time to get it looking good. had i owned mine right off the lot like you maybe i could get away with a more simple approach.
I have problems with spooks and ghouls in my paint.Quote:
Originally Posted by hyu
I always use Meguires Tech wax. Love it.
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Originally Posted by sleepy ep3
I have a unopened bottle of this in my garage for over a year, I've been meaning to try it but keep forgetting about it every time I wax. Ever used Zymol? And if so, how does it compare?
You guys need to update your wax selection! Check out some Poorboy's World EX-P sealant w/Carnauba or P21S Concours Carnauba Wax.
I've had my eye on some shit from Germany... Just not sure if the cost is worth the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsvtec
What you lookin' at from Germany? I use Wolfgang 3.0 sealant at work, and recently on my car. Comparable to the Poorboy's EX w/carnauba
Definitely upgrade from parts store/walmart waxes. Zymol is a good product, we use it occasionally at work for various things. But definitely treat yourself to a good sealant or wax.
Wolfgang Füzion Estate Wax. $175.
So far -on dark vehicles- I haven't found a wax that gives a deeper look Then Zymol, or is as smooth to the touch. I seriously support a chub when I run the back of my hand on a fender after waxing with Zymol... The only downside is that the smoothness only lasts until the first or second wash after the initial application. What's your preferred method for application? Machine or by hand?
Sealants I apply by machine(PC with finishing pad on 3.5-4.5), and wax by hand(w/microfiber towel or foam applicator). Always removed by hand with a brand new MF towel.
We use the Wolfgang Fuzion Estate Wax at work, I LOVE it. Super deep reflection, tons of added gloss. It's a great top coat wax. If you pick up some of the Fuzion Estate, definitely pick up a sealant to wax with before. The Fuzion looks great, but doesn't last as long as sealants. Because of that, I usually layer 1-2 coats of sealant and then a top coat of a nice wax like Fuzion. It's definitely worth the money for it.
Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it, although my wallet doesn't! What sealer would you recommend for that wax?Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsvtec
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 is a low cost and high quality product. We use it on every car where I work. The carnauba really adds a lot of gloss. With the Fuzion put on top of that, your car will really POP! :thumbu:
Just used this. Result isnt to bad. http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...95/cleanep.jpg
Looks good for a quick fix! :thumbu:
Lmk how long it lasts though, I'm curious to know. :mrolleyes:
Will do. Im probably going to wash once a week and use the quick detailer after each wash. Well see.
a QD would be perfect for an after wash drying aide!Quote:
Originally Posted by Powers
If you haven't learned about Sheeting yet, do yourself a favor and learn up. Sheeting the water off will make drying easier since most of the water is pulled or sheeted off of the car.
Once the water has been properly sheeted off the car, the amount of water left should be significantly less than just after spraying the car down. After sheeting, spray the QD liberally over the entire car(one panel at a time) and dry using a waffle weave micro towel or other drying medium. The QD will create a layer of lubrication between your dry medium, and the now clean and soon to be dry car. The QD will help prevent scratches and any "dragging" you might get from the towel on each panel. PLUS! You're saving time, turning 2 steps, into 1.
Excuse my lengthy post, ask for clarification if you need any on my jargon. I love detailing! :mbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by whatsvtec
I know exactly what your talking about. Unfortunatly I only have access to one of those self wash autoports. I live on base in the barracks. I just bring my soap and rinse buckets with all my stuff there fill em up rinse wash rinse haha.
I use this alot im the OP. I love it. It lasts 2-4 weeks depening on the weather and how often i get to clean he car. I always use the black spray detailer with it and it helps as well..i used to detail cars for a lexus dealer and this works far better as a finishing wax/sealer than anything we ever used there. Expecially on my car..the only problem with it is its a pain in the ass to remove. I have to go back over the car with a new rag to remove whats left. Wven with an orbital buffer its a pain. But it works great. And to whoever flamed the users of this and products like it. Why is it so bad we use it? Is it not enough that regaurdless we are still taking care of the paint on the car,even though its not a professional detail. Ive used this for a few years and the paint on my car looked better than most all of the lexus cars we did as a full exterior detail.ive wetsanded and buffed my car and the result wasnt much differant to either product.and noone could tell the differance.Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsvtec
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Originally Posted by black05ep
Correction>Cover-Up
Glad you're happy with the results. I just couldn't imagine waxing my car twice a month just to cover up scratches. I prefer to keep my finish properly polished.
I know its basicly a coverup. But there are so many advantages to the black box. Detailing cars for 3 years at lexus i learned alot. I can wetsand and buff my car out and it looks fantastic. For half the time and effort for the same results that last about the same length depending on the conditions. I would take the black box over a detail shop. Thats all im saying. And i was also letting you kno about how long it lasts.in the winters not as long but spring through fall i can get about 3 to 4 weeks maybe 5 max. Ill take that. I new finish my car twice a year wax it atleast every other month maybe every month if i have the opportunity. Its easy and gets better results from alot of places ive seen.but what it all comes down to is atleast we attempt to keep our cars paint good.despite if we do it one way or the other right? Im not calling you wrong or me. Whatever works best for the person.Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsvtec
I need to get mine , ASAP .
I was using some other stuff . My Car looks Origth when I finish .