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    All depends on what wheels/tires hes running

    and if he has motor mounts --- otherwise all that power will just hurt him.

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    Originally posted by Dunrick
    All depends on what wheels/tires hes running

    and if he has motor mounts --- otherwise all that power will just hurt him.
    tru.. :)

    i think he is on stock tires..

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    so did you get on the dyno?

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    Originally posted by joshua
    well guys it looked ok to me i got 165whp he said that is like 195 hp overall and i got 130lbs of torque.

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    Originally posted by 95 GSR
    holy crap how did I miss that :o

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    i think church automotive uses a dynojet dyno that runs from the axles with the wheels removed. That is why he hit 165. correct me if im wrong, but on a dyno with rollers would be more like 155 or so.
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    Originally posted by !@#$%
    i think church automotive uses a dynojet dyno that runs from the axles with the wheels removed. That is why he hit 165. correct me if im wrong, but on a dyno with rollers would be more like 155 or so.
    its called a dynopack... and yes, on a dynojet he would be around 157-158...if hes running stock rims and tires

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    Originally posted by 95 GSR

    ...if hes running stock rims and tires
    I had 17's on when I put 149whp down. I asked the guy there doing the dyno run if that mattered, he said it doesn't affect anything. Is this really true or not?

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    yes , it matters.

    run your car on the dyno with your 15s. you'll see

    the bigger/heavier the rim the more power u lose to the ground

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    Originally posted by 95 GSR
    yes , it matters.

    run your car on the dyno with your 15s. you'll see

    the bigger/heavier the rim the more power u lose to the ground
    damn, too bad I don't have the 15's anymore just to see how much of a difference we're talking. I know that the bigger rotational mass/weight hurst performance, I just didn't think it would matter on the dyno that much. So I wonder how much whp I lost?

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    Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

    damn, too bad I don't have the 15's anymore just to see how much of a difference we're talking. I know that the bigger rotational mass/weight hurst performance, I just didn't think it would matter on the dyno that much. So I wonder how much whp I lost?
    I saw a test in a magazine where they dyno'd a mildly modified car with 13's (I believe), then put 17s that weighed in at 9.5 lbs heavier than the stock steelies and slightly bigger overall diameter. On the dyno they showed about a 6hp loss across the entire powerband. Mind you that was about a 25% weight increase and the weight was now further out, so it's not that surprising.

    If you kept close to the stock wheel/tire combo's weight, it shouldn't throw it off by much. Maybe 1/2-2 hp would be my guess due to the rotational mass being further out from the hub. If you were to add more weight to the wheels and tires, you'd be more likely to feel it as slower response in the suspension than you would in acceleration. I wouldn't sweat it.

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    bigger rims always kills it!!
    dyno with 15s. stock rims
    160whp is pretty good numbers
    now time to go to track .aim for 14 high /15 low.

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    where in torrance is that dyno place? i work in torrance at Scott Robinson Honda, did you buy you car there? well anyways hit me up with a phone number becuase i want to see what my car puts out! it feels pretty fast so im hopeing for like 150 to the wheels

    MODS are:
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    1/4 miles run best time was 15.675 and the sorriest was 16.233
    i took out spare and jack too and lowered tire pressure to 30 from 35 and it was 100+ degree weather during the day but at night it was a lil cooler probably 85-95, no sure.

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    i'd like to see the numbers this car does at the track:)

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    Originally posted by MasterVTEC
    where in torrance is that dyno place? i work in torrance at Scott Robinson Honda, did you buy you car there? well anyways hit me up with a phone number becuase i want to see what my car puts out! it feels pretty fast so im hopeing for like 150 to the wheel....
    Church automotive testing
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