Getting colder air into turbo intake - Ideas??

[esmith13]

ANy ideas on how to get colder air into the intake in this picture below?? With the turbo manifold just beneath it, it gets REAL HOT air sucked into it now. This is the Cybernation Kit, and it is intercooled - so laugh at me at your will if you think this is not needed @ all... I just assumed the colder it is to start, the colder it gets when intercooled. Colder/denser air makes EP go Zoom-Zoom!! :)

here's the pic:




Thanks,

Eric

[sniperSI]

Well i do not believe cold air is that great of a deal with a turbo, because when it spools up its compressing the air and the more you compress it, the hotter it gets, so Cold air or not its not going to make that much of a difference, hence N20 sprayer for IC.

[sniperSI]

so tell us about the turbo, give some reviews.

[esmith13]

#1: When you compress air, it gets COLDER, not hotter.

#2: Turbo ROCKS!!!! :D -- ask me questions and I'll answer them...

Eric

[Jpax]

Originally posted by esmith13
#1: When you compress air, it gets COLDER, not hotter.

#2: Turbo ROCKS!!!! :D -- ask me questions and I'll answer them...

Eric

Hes talking about compressing it in the engine, maybe you can make a longer tube that gose in the fender like the CAI do?

[esmith13]

hmmmm, good idea, pax, but i'm not sure their's room for that :(

Eric

[sniperSI]

Yes, so I figure since your pounding air into the engine, a 5 or 10 degree differance in intake temperature wont make much of a difference in speed.

Check this out:

http://www.turbo-kits.com/honda_fuel_management.html


Just some interesting reads

So is this:

http://www.twinturbostang.com/turbos/


just basic turbo information.



Ok now the questions

What kinda throttle postin do u use in 1st gear, Can you take off quick if you decide to just start from a dead stop in 2nd or 3rd?

How about moving thru the gears, can you floor it or is it too much power?

HOw fast do you move thru the gears now:?

[myeverlovinsir]

Originally posted by esmith13
#1: When you compress air, it gets COLDER, not hotter.

#2: Turbo ROCKS!!!! :D -- ask me questions and I'll answer them...

Eric

Au contrair, when you compress air it gets hotter. When it expands it
gets colder. If you have ever let the air out of a compressed air cylinder, or punched a hole in a aerosol can, you know how cold it gets. ;)

[Si3]

dyno #'s please.

-aj-

[andy]

On WRXs, CAI's do little to nothing on a dyno. There may be some
real life (i.e. driving on an open road) gains, but they are minimal
at best.

However, a CAI/better intake would allow more "fresh" air to enter
the intake, because ideally you want colder air, simply because there
is more of it (i.e. it's like driving on a hot summer day all of
the time). I don't know if you're going to see much of a difference with
a new intake solution, but a couple ideas are a bigger intercooler (to
help combat any sort of heat soak), the nitrous IC sprayer (as someone
mentioned) or a new hood with vents. You could also try to fabricate
some plumbing from the grill/wheel wheel to that area.

[Tenacious G]

Originally posted by myeverlovinsir
Au contrair, when you compress air it gets hotter. When it expands it
gets colder. If you have ever let the air out of a compressed air cylinder, or punched a hole in a aerosol can, you know how cold it gets. ;)

werd ... that's exactly the example i was going to use.

[2QK4U ALLWAYS]

AIR GETS HOTTER WHEN COMPRESSED
Anyways your problem is you want more air, not necessarly colder you need a hood scoop connected to the turbo or the filter therefore the faster you drive the more volume of air gets pushed in
The answer is VOLUME

[esmith13]

Originally posted by Si3
dyno #'s please.

-aj-

EPhatchGirl and I will be planning a dyno day together within a month. Were both runnin the C.N. Stage I Kit. Dyno #s WILL get posted when we get them, I promise :D

I'll be heading to the track on Nov 14th for the big east Coast EP meet. Surfsi and I will be runnin the CN EPs. Unfortunately, we both have LESS than adaquate rubber and both are on stock clutch right now, so we'll see what happens...

Eric

[4g63dsm]

if you are running an air to air intercooler it shouldn't matter thats the air being inducted by the filter is hot; since that air air gonna be pumped through the turbo, then the ic pipe system and back to the intake manifold.

[esmith13]

OK, OK....

I know when I'm beaten ... and wrong....

I was wrong about the compressed air temp thingy..... sorry!!!


JEEZ...


Eric