http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-A...-6240-none.cfmOriginally posted by SiBoy
can u post pics of a comptech exhaust or show me a link where i can get one? Thx
www.comptechusa.com is the homepage for comptech
can u post pics of a comptech exhaust or show me a link where i can get one? Thx
http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-A...-6240-none.cfmOriginally posted by SiBoy
can u post pics of a comptech exhaust or show me a link where i can get one? Thx
www.comptechusa.com is the homepage for comptech
I remember that vid from a long time ago, cracks me up at the endOriginally posted by labelhunter
heres how the exhaust and header sounded on a 99-00 si
There's NO WAY that exhaust can be that much better stock. At least not $700 better. Hell, you can have mandrel bent pipes installed for WAY less with the same (or better) performance gains.
Insane.
I just want to know why Comptech is better. Not because it sounds cool or looks good. I want to know actual numbers, build specifications, etc...
I think you guys are getting this exhaust for the same reason you buy Tommy. Name brand.....
High costs does not equate to high quality. You can spend less and still get more.
Steve
I agree with you. it's just too damn much! not worth it, probably the same amount of a gain a custom mendrel pieping would be. I like the looks of the stock muffler anyway. I think I'll save my dough and get a custom mid pipe :DOriginally posted by ssvr6
There's NO WAY that exhaust can be that much better stock. At least not $700 better. Hell, you can have mandrel bent pipes installed for WAY less with the same (or better) performance gains.
Insane.
I just want to know why Comptech is better. Not because it sounds cool or looks good. I want to know actual numbers, build specifications, etc...
I think you guys are getting this exhaust for the same reason you buy Tommy. Name brand.....
High costs does not equate to high quality. You can spend less and still get more.
Steve
I don't think exhaust help out these cars much anyway, they are good from the start. I think I saw a dyno where the exhaust only gave like 2hp to the wheels......for 700! No thanks, put that towards a turbo!
Think of it this way.. why do you think it is taking APEX and Greddy so long to produce these products.. the arnt just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, they are doing tests after tests after tests etc... these exausts are being tested on dynos for long periods of time to get it right. who do you think knows more... a quality EXAUST company that does months of research and tests before releasing a product specifically for our cars, or some schmo that works at mighty muffler who can whip up something in 1 day? im putting my money on the company lolThere's NO WAY that exhaust can be that much better stock. At least not $700 better. Hell, you can have mandrel bent pipes installed for WAY less with the same (or better) performance gains.
thats just my opinion though, i could be wrong..
comptech is a pretty honest company...they have the dyno sheets for each mod, and it's not over inflated like most.Originally posted by PoRT
Think of it this way.. why do you think it is taking APEX and Greddy so long to produce these products.. the arnt just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, they are doing tests after tests after tests etc... these exausts are being tested on dynos for long periods of time to get it right. who do you think knows more... a quality EXAUST company that does months of research and tests before releasing a product specifically for our cars, or some schmo that works at mighty muffler who can whip up something in 1 day? im putting my money on the company lol
thats just my opinion though, i could be wrong..
Originally posted by PoRT
Think of it this way.. why do you think it is taking APEX and Greddy so long to produce these products.. the arnt just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, they are doing tests after tests after tests etc... these exausts are being tested on dynos for long periods of time to get it right. who do you think knows more... a quality EXAUST company that does months of research and tests before releasing a product specifically for our cars, or some schmo that works at mighty muffler who can whip up something in 1 day? im putting my money on the company lol
thats just my opinion though, i could be wrong..
Very well said...That is exactly true!!!
My point is this. There isn't hundreds of hours of R&D on the the midpipe. The R&D is on the look and sound. Getting power is easy, I'm sorry, when you're talking about exhausts, it's true.Originally posted by PoRT
Think of it this way.. why do you think it is taking APEX and Greddy so long to produce these products.. the arnt just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, they are doing tests after tests after tests etc... these exausts are being tested on dynos for long periods of time to get it right. who do you think knows more... a quality EXAUST company that does months of research and tests before releasing a product specifically for our cars, or some schmo that works at mighty muffler who can whip up something in 1 day? im putting my money on the company lol
thats just my opinion though, i could be wrong..
They try a few pipe sizes (maybe different bends) and then they hit the resonators and muffler. Once they have some comments on the sound and the look, it's released.
What's taking so long is meeting CARB regulations and noise laws. Don't kid yourselves. They want their exhausts to meet these guidelines since that's where a majority of the business is. (California)
A mandrel bent midpipe, removed resonator and stock muffler will make the same power as a $700 exhuast. I'll bet money on it.
Steve
Originally posted by ssvr6
My point is this. There isn't hundreds of hours of R&D on the the midpipe. The R&D is on the look and sound. Getting power is easy, I'm sorry, when you're talking about exhausts, it's true.
They try a few pipe sizes (maybe different bends) and then they hit the resonators and muffler. Once they have some comments on the sound and the look, it's released.
What's taking so long is meeting CARB regulations and noise laws. Don't kid yourselves. They want their exhausts to meet these guidelines since that's where a majority of the business is. (California)
A mandrel bent midpipe, removed resonator and stock muffler will make the same power as a $700 exhuast. I'll bet money on it.
Steve
Actually there is a lot of hours on the piping to the exhaust. If you remember right several compnies have found that if you make the piping to big on this K-series motor, that you seem to loose power through the whole power band. You cant deny that Spoon and Comptech are 2 of the BEST companies for aftermarket parts for our car. If its cheap that you want go with APC :p
I'm not being a dick here, but seriously, how old are you? It's your close mind that's holding you back from realizing that high ticket doesn't equal high quality. (BMW's are very expensive and yet they spend a lot of time at the dealer with electrical issues and CEL's.)
How long does it take for a muffler shop to bend a pipe in place? Double that for mandrel bending and add 50% for possible air flow tests. That number will NEVER equal a year. I'm sorry, I don't care what math you use. They're market testing them for looks, sound, and advertising stratedgy.
They have a basic template. They make various pipes and resonators (varying sizes and make up) and they dyno them.
If I had the facilities, I could do it. It's not rocket science. It's simple backpressure, power gained, torque, flow, etc...
Oh yeah, and when I'm running faster than you for a quarter of the cost, will it matter that you're running a comptech exhaust?
Now, I'm not talking about heads, pistons, rods, etc. I'm talking about simple things like intakes, exhausts, etc.
I agree, there are some parts you don't skimp on, but exhausts? What a joke.
Steve
Ok...lets do it. Im doing all Spoon and Comptech mods, and you do all APC, and then we will see who does better!!!Originally posted by ssvr6
I'm not being a dick here, but seriously, how old are you? It's your close mind that's holding you back from realizing that high ticket doesn't equal high quality. (BMW's are very expensive and yet they spend a lot of time at the dealer with electrical issues and CEL's.)
How long does it take for a muffler shop to bend a pipe in place? Double that for mandrel bending and add 50% for possible air flow tests. That number will NEVER equal a year. I'm sorry, I don't care what math you use. They're market testing them for looks, sound, and advertising stratedgy.
They have a basic template. They make various pipes and resonators (varying sizes and make up) and they dyno them.
If I had the facilities, I could do it. It's not rocket science. It's simple backpressure, power gained, torque, flow, etc...
Oh yeah, and when I'm running faster than you for a quarter of the cost, will it matter that you're running a comptech exhaust?
Now, I'm not talking about heads, pistons, rods, etc. I'm talking about simple things like intakes, exhausts, etc.
I agree, there are some parts you don't skimp on, but exhausts? What a joke.
Steve
For some strange reason I'd put money on Spoon and Comptech. :D
Fellas, what I like about comptech is this; Comptech is a Honda/Acura specialist, they perform test upon test with state of the art equipment, and have plenty of data to support their research.
But the most important reason is that they come with a great warranty, many Honda/Acura dealers are "official distributors" of their products, and honor service and warranties.
I put on an AM cai on my son's car, but when I heard Comptech would probably release products for the Si, I put all other upgrades on hold. The cost to me is worth it, I sleep better at nights knowing there are good products on the cars.
Like the old saying goes...."you can pay now, or you can PAY later".
Regards,
hms....my 2 cents worth
This is what Ive been trying to explain to SSRV6, but he doesnt seem to understand. He thinks that all of us who buy Comptech or Spoon are STUPID, and that we should all go out and buy the cheapest shit we can find for our cars!!! :pOriginally posted by My98nsx
Fellas, what I like about comptech is this; Comptech is a Honda/Acura specialist, they perform test upon test with state of the art equipment, and have plenty of data to support their research.
But the most important reason is that they come with a great warranty, many Honda/Acura dealers are "official distributors" of their products, and honor service and warranties.
I put on an AM cai on my son's car, but when I heard Comptech would probably release products for the Si, I put all other upgrades on hold. The cost to me is worth it, I sleep better at nights knowing there are good products on the cars.
Like the old saying goes...."you can pay now, or you can PAY later".
Regards,
hms....my 2 cents worth
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