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    Originally posted by JSIR
    wow, great work Glen, lots of good info for anyone wanting to do that mod. . excellent post.

    Hey Glen, did you notice any black residue granule like material sitting at the bottom of the intake manifold ?. There is a tray like section at the bottom side of the manifold, when I took my throttle body off I noticed a bit of granules sitting down there, they kind of felt like carbon granules. Looks like the tray is meant to collect materials and oils that come from the breather tube system. Just wondering if you noticed any in yours ?, I cleaned mine out as best as I could. Kind of hard to describe unless you've seen it.
    I had noticed that as well and removed the tray to clean it. Also
    wiped out the entire manifold as best I could along with the TB
    and head. There was definetely a black carbon build up along all.
    One thing I will look into doing when I get my TB bored, is to hone
    out and polish the manifold fully.

    By the looks of the manifold it could handle quite a bit of water up
    take, if that ever happened, before it became a issue and got
    sucked into the upper runners.

    Tks Joey.

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    Awesome work!! Great step by step!

    Now, I just need the cahones to do this myself. (The fuel rail scares me.)

    Steve

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    Originally posted by ssvr6
    Awesome work!! Great step by step!

    Now, I just need the cahones to do this myself. (The fuel rail scares me.)

    Steve

    Nothing to be scared about here, one thing that I might suggest.
    Remove the battery, even if you don't need to. This will take the
    fuel and spark equation out of the picture, just for safety sake.
    I think there may have been about a half a cup of gas that leaked
    out from the fuel rail when I unclipped it. Other than that the
    rail comes out quite nicely. tks

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    with fuel rails I always wrap the end with a sandwich bag and put an elastic around it super tight so you dont inhale fumes all the time. Removing the battery is a good idea. On the old b16's we always relieved the fuel pressure before dismantling the fuel rails/manifolds but it doesn't seem like these engines need that.

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    im sorry im a dumb ass but im not understanding the reson for the back to back nut are you trying to take the stud out or are you trying to get a tight nut off

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    Originally posted by 2k2civicSi
    im sorry im a dumb ass but im not understanding the reson for the back to back nut are you trying to take the stud out or are you trying to get a tight nut off

    No, just removal and replacement of the studs.
    Here is a stud with a nut. You can see that it would be difficult to
    unscrew it from the head after you remove the nut. (nothing to grip on)


    Imagine 2 nuts back to back and tight (as shown here) on the same end.
    now you can turn the inner nut couterclockwise to remove the stud from the head.


    ....hth

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    EXCELLENT POST!!! a hall of famer.! -- joe.

    how bout some intial impressions? intake manifold feel cooler to the touch after installing this?
    At the same time that you removed your TB did you do the coolant Bypass as well?

    Thanks --joe

    BTW:STICKIED!

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    thank you i didnt relize you had to take the stud out

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    Originally posted by 02blksi
    EXCELLENT POST!!! a hall of famer.! -- joe.

    how bout some intial impressions? intake manifold feel cooler to the touch after installing this?
    At the same time that you removed your TB did you do the coolant Bypass as well?

    Thanks --joe

    BTW:STICKIED!

    That's what I would like to know, after driving around town for an hour or so does the intake manifold feel any cooler to the touch ?, afterall that's the purpose of the gasket. Probably best tested in warm summer conditions, things are pretty cool up here right now, even my intake manifold feels cool to the touch after a drive.

    As for the coolant by-pass trick, Glen drives his car in winter up here, so that would not be a very good mod to do this time of the year, it can actually be dangerous in our climate.

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    Originally posted by JSIR



    That's what I would like to know, after driving around town for an hour or so does the intake manifold feel any cooler to the touch ?, afterall that's the purpose of the gasket. Probably best tested in warm summer conditions, things are pretty cool up here right now, even my intake manifold feels cool to the touch after a drive.
    my intake manifold felt way cooler to the touch after installing mine on my other civic. Before the manifold was hot, not hot enough to burn you, but after words, with the gasket I could touch it and it was barely warm...this was in the summer....with a JRSC at 10lbs of boost

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    Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

    my intake manifold felt way cooler to the touch after installing mine on my other civic. Before the manifold was hot, not hot enough to burn you, but after words, with the gasket I could touch it and it was barely warm...this was in the summer....with a JRSC at 10lbs of boost
    nice, I've heard that about other similar products, they used to call them phenolic spacers ?, or something like that. Hopefully Hondata's version works as well.

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    hondata gasket

    I bow before the everlovinSiR.....we all do. Can't wait to see those dyno comparisons! And get my new gasket installed!

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    good job, cant wait to see the dyno numbers too:)

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    Great "How To"...thanks! I hope to do this sooner or later.

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    Thumbs up

    Ok first impressions of the gasket.

    When I brought my car into the garage before the install
    (outside temp was near 5 deg celcius) and opened the hood
    to start working on it, the intake was just too hot to handle by
    hand. I had to wait about 15 min. before it was even close to
    touchable.

    This morning after driving to work (100 kms) I immediately parked
    the car and openend the hood to check. Dam it was barely warm
    to the touch.
    There is a definite improvement in temperature reduction in
    the manifold and I suspect gains as a result.


    I will be doing a dyno run after the SEMA show when my hondata
    dealer comes back. Thanks all for the positive feeback!

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