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    HID help please....(shopping)

    Well, I recently purchased some Sylvania Xenarc fogs and want some matching HID headlights. The fogs are at 4100k which from my understanding is very close to white / oem. I'm not schooled on brands and such and was hoping someone can give me some pointers. Upon glancing for the same "K" on Ebay I found these:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7906129648

    Good? Bad? Mediocre?

    Thanks in advance! :m:
    Mel

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    Those look pretty good. Id say go for it, cant beat the price.

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    I am looking at 4300k Xenondepot low beam HID conversion..

    Price seems very nice.
    Please write some reviews once you get it.
    I am very interested to see some results.

    Many members using McCullouch kit and they seems to work nicely.

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    I've heard that McCullouch HID kits are of good quality. Let us know and post some pics after you installed them.

    Go for it.

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    Oogy, I advised for the sylvanias, but those lights you are looking at on e-bay suck. Here's why: To begin with, they have taken an HID bulb and glued it to a plastic base in order to fit our h4 housing. This is not the end of the world, but if you look around (the best place to read up is hidforum.com) you will find that at the very high temperatures at which HID operates, the glue comes undone, or boils, or the plastic base they have made simply melts. What do you do when the bulbs included break/melt? Good luck finding rebased HID bulbs for an h4 application that will plug and play into your hid retrofit. Ok, if you are still reading, then you have the very large glare factor, those bulbs do not have a reflector shield. A very popular way of getting around this is to buy the aluminum casper shield from casper electronics (the same guys that make our o2 sim's), they have a piece of metal which (a) allows you to put any standard hid bulb into an h4 application, and (b) includes a glare shield (= won't get pulled over). Now if you decide to go with the casper shields (about $60 for two) then you don't need to buy any of these aftermarket kits, which frankly, seeing how they the majority are assembled in taiwan are POS in my opinion. Instead, you can buy ANY d2S bulb and ballast on e-bay. If you type d2s and ballast, you will find a bunch of people selling hella, bosche,phillips ballast alongside phillips uintron (the BEST bulbs only availabe in 4100K) bulbs for the around the same price as the kit you indicated in your thread. Finally, I think you should know that if you plan on going HID at all with the ep, you had better get a good harness, because the existing harness is rather weak and any voltage spikes can fry the ballast, which is the most expensive part to replace. OK, this is a mouthful, I hope it works out for you. I am holding out to (eventually) go bi-xenon projector, because I don't want to lose hi beams, and HID projectors offer 0 glare, I don't know, I just relly like a nice cmooth light cutoff, which is impossible to do with reflectors (though lexus comes pretty damn close).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SF-SI-02
    Finally, I think you should know that if you plan on going HID at all with the ep, you had better get a good harness, because the existing harness is rather weak and any voltage spikes can fry the ballast,
    Which harness are you talking about?

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    The harness that comes stock... look at k-series.com writeup and the very noticeable difference when you install a heavy duty harness. I bought mine from suvlights.com but I am sure you can find them elsewhere. I have the harness and run 90w/100w philips ralley bulbs, not quite hid but definetly much brighter than stock.

    But a heavy duty harness is good investment if yo uput in HID, because it provides a direct source of power from the battery to the ballast, as opposed to going through the rest of the car's electrical system first, so it is less prone to spikes which could fry a ballast. Again, tons of info about this at hidforum.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by SF-SI-02
    Oogy, I advised for the sylvanias, but those lights you are looking at on e-bay suck. Here's why: To begin with, they have taken an HID bulb and glued it to a plastic base in order to fit our h4 housing. This is not the end of the world, but if you look around (the best place to read up is hidforum.com) you will find that at the very high temperatures at which HID operates, the glue comes undone, or boils, or the plastic base they have made simply melts. What do you do when the bulbs included break/melt? Good luck finding rebased HID bulbs for an h4 application that will plug and play into your hid retrofit. Ok, if you are still reading, then you have the very large glare factor, those bulbs do not have a reflector shield. A very popular way of getting around this is to buy the aluminum casper shield from casper electronics (the same guys that make our o2 sim's), they have a piece of metal which (a) allows you to put any standard hid bulb into an h4 application, and (b) includes a glare shield (= won't get pulled over). Now if you decide to go with the casper shields (about $60 for two) then you don't need to buy any of these aftermarket kits, which frankly, seeing how they the majority are assembled in taiwan are POS in my opinion. Instead, you can buy ANY d2S bulb and ballast on e-bay. If you type d2s and ballast, you will find a bunch of people selling hella, bosche,phillips ballast alongside phillips uintron (the BEST bulbs only availabe in 4100K) bulbs for the around the same price as the kit you indicated in your thread. Finally, I think you should know that if you plan on going HID at all with the ep, you had better get a good harness, because the existing harness is rather weak and any voltage spikes can fry the ballast, which is the most expensive part to replace. OK, this is a mouthful, I hope it works out for you. I am holding out to (eventually) go bi-xenon projector, because I don't want to lose hi beams, and HID projectors offer 0 glare, I don't know, I just relly like a nice cmooth light cutoff, which is impossible to do with reflectors (though lexus comes pretty damn close).

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    Awesome post....

    Thanks again for all the help :)
    Mel

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    SF-SI-02

    How would you compare xenondepot low beam HID kit with McCullouch kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SF-SI-02
    Oogy, I advised for the sylvanias, but those lights you are looking at on e-bay suck. ........ I am holding out to (eventually) go bi-xenon projector, because I don't want to lose hi beams, and HID projectors offer 0 glare......
    Any idea where I can get the low/hi's?
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    anyone know where Type-X's DIY HID kit is at?

    Done so much reading tonight. Oogy, when you get your kit, make sure u get/make a shield. It will help reduce glare. Also, if u paint it black, it will reduce even more. Make sure u use high heat flat black paint. I'll give u more details when you want em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiyo
    anyone know where Type-X's DIY HID kit is at?

    Done so much reading tonight. Oogy, when you get your kit, make sure u get/make a shield. It will help reduce glare. Also, if u paint it black, it will reduce even more. Make sure u use high heat flat black paint. I'll give u more details when you want em.
    LOL me 2.

    I emailed xenondepot for asking DIY for typex's 5k hi/low setup.

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    Hello,

    Thank-you for contacting XenonDepot.

    As per your email:

    1) The H4 kit is plug +play. This is a low beam only kit meaning that you
    will lose your high beam functionality. We no longer sell a high/low
    conversion kit as we have found that the high/low mechanisms give out way to
    easily.

    2) The kit does come with a glare shield!

    Steve.

    They didn't send me link for DIY.
    But it can't be any more than just simple wiring job.

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    Its a very simple plug and play job, no splicing should be required. It'll all make sense when you staring at it how its supposed to go together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civicvtec1ps
    2) The kit does come with a glare shield!
    WONDERFUL! Save me some bucks on buying one. Did u tell them u was a member on the hatch or just some misc person asking bout stuff? I'll be buying mines next month, hopefully.......

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