Reply With Quote2003 em2 bar ....15.9mm hollow does very well....but you should use stiffer springs imo.
well before the site crashed i made a little thread about how i removed my front sway bar, and that combined with my ctr rear sway made the car a blast to drive..... no understeer whatsoever.
however, upon further review, i will say that the front of the car now seems a little too floaty without it. your best best is to run the smallest front sway possible. that way the front of the car still stays tight, while still reducing its natural tendency to understeer into a ditch.
im sure this really isnt news to anyone lol, but just thought i would confirm that no front sway isnt the ideal solution.
2003 em2 bar ....15.9mm hollow does very well....but you should use stiffer springs imo.
i have sportlines. stock shocks though....Originally Posted by mustclime
2003 em2 bar ....15.9mm hollow does very well....but you should use stiffer springs imo.
Sport lines are not very stiff imo. I think they claim 20% stiffer than stock with stock being 249lb(ish) in the front(both are progressive).....That puts you at around 300lbs(progressive). I recomend 400lb+ strait rates for small ft bars.
Way to many people imo use try to use swaybars(really anti-roll bars) to tune suspension. That would be ok if our suspension came well tuned from the factory for "sportie" driving. Sway bars should be used to fine tune suspension. Dampers and springs should be used to "tune" the sispension with the sways bring used to get the last amount out of the suspension......
i was always told the opposite, that springs should be used to control the cars dive/squat characteristics and that sway bars should be used to control a cars understeer/oversteer characteristics.Sport lines are not very stiff imo. I think they claim 20% stiffer than stock with stock being 249lb(ish) in the front(both are progressive).....That puts you at around 300lbs(progressive). I recomend 400lb+ strait rates for small ft bars.
Way to many people imo use try to use swaybars(really anti-roll bars) to tune suspension. That would be ok if our suspension came well tuned from the factory for "sportie" driving. Sway bars should be used to fine tune suspension. Dampers and springs should be used to "tune" the sispension with the sways bring used to get the last amount out of the suspension......
It is really about keeping the tires "happy". Low grip tires need soft springs with stiffer sways. Super grippy(like r compound) tires need stiffer springs and bars to a point.
Something else to remember is a sway bar is in effect making your 4 wheel independant suspension less independant.
If you have really stiff springs( I mean really,really stiff), large swaybars are not needed as much because body side to side movement partly controled by the stiffer spring rates.
i see your point.
is the Em2 JDM spec or could I get the 2003 civic front sway off any parts sites?
You can get it from any Honda parts site, around 39$ or so....Dont forget the bushings as well.
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ive heard you can go to a honda dealership and get it for like 50 bucks with the bushings.
45.55$ for everything from here. https://www.hondapartsdeals.com/hond...omponent=B++27
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sweet, im gonna book mark that
For someone with the Mugen SS and a CTR rear sway, is it worth going to the EM2 bar?
its smaller in diameter so it will help your car rotate in slow speed corners.
are h&r springs stiff enough?
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