I went through Hmotorsonline and feel that the extra $$ that I paid was for the lack of risk and complete package that I received. Motor was clean as f#&@, I was able to sell a lot that I didnt use (type-s axles, steering pump, shifter assembly, 5-speed tranny, EP ecu and harnesses,ect,ect), and there was a guaranteed start-up which wasn't needed. Putting those parts up for sale on K20a.org, at the time, was like putting raw bloody meat in a pool full of starving sharks....Including the trans (A3 motor was junk or I would have sold/made more) I easily made 1K or more back.