H brace and lower rear arm bar worth getting??

[supercivician]

for the h brace:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H-Bra...spagenameZWDVW

lower rear arm bar from corsport:

http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...roducts_id=353

do they have a big impact on increasing the handling of the car

[cow]

carbing bar - no
h bar - do you plan to track your car? don't buy the piece for the sake of it, buy it because you want to correct some aspect of handling. if you're just buying it to whore parts, save your money.

[supercivician]

carbing bar - no
h bar - do you plan to track your car? don't buy the piece for the sake of it, buy it because you want to correct some aspect of handling. if you're just buying it to whore parts, save your money.

i just want to hold my speed around the corner, so i guess no for both

[cow]

lower tie bars are pretty much worthless-- i'm honestly not sure why they exist.

this is my opinion of course, but i think buying parts for the pure sake of it is silly-- get some seat time at an autocross or something similar & then decide what you dislike about your car's handling. does it over steer, under steer, lose grip at full throttle, etc? from there, start correcting it to suit your driving style.

[supercivician]

then what is going to increase handling on a dd

[cow]

Good tires are a great start. What are your mods & what about your handling do you want to "increase?"

[supercivician]

Good tires are a great start. What are your mods & what about your handling do you want to "increase?"

falken ze912 with sportline springs, front and rear strut bars, cpillar bar
im think getting tokico blue's.

i just want better handling around the corners

[cow]

Consider spending the extra money for Tokico D-Specs. The Blues are OEM replacements-- nothing special. The adjustable damping with the d-specs is great for fine-tuning your handling.

[supercivician]

what about upgrading the sway bar??

[cow]

Stiffening the rear of the car will make it biased towards oversteer. Like I said, assess what you dislike about your car's handling & then make changes from there.

[MugsyTheGr8]

Stiffening the rear of the car will make it biased towards oversteer. Like I said, assess what you dislike about your car's handling & then make changes from there.

looks like you got everything under control in here.

to the op, refer to the zzyx list.

Your suspension hierarchy

1. Driver
2. Tires
3. Alignment
4. Dampers
5. Springs
6. anti-roll bars
7. bushings
8. chassis bracing


Start at the top and work down.... but obviously swap out worn or broken parts 1st.

[v1c10us]

according to that list
c bar h bar v bar x bar z bar tie bar lower arm bar blah blah blah bars should be last on your list.
fuck all those bars dood have of them connect one piece of metal to itself..
low arm bar? have you seen what it bolts to?
thats like taking an Iron Girder and then putting a piece of tubular steel on it and bolting it to it and saying, hey its stiffer now! it wont flex!

[cow]

Agreed. Again, I highly reccomend learning one's car's limits & assessing what should be changed from there.

If you're just looking to go quickly down an exit ramp or hit up your favourite country road (yo), well...
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Forz...2346665&sr=8-1

[MugsyTheGr8]

Agreed. Again, I highly reccomend learning one's car's limits & assessing what should be changed from there.

If you're just looking to go quickly down an exit ramp or hit up your favourite country road (yo), well...
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Forz...2346665&sr=8-1

lol, he doesnt want it

[cow]

lol, he doesnt want it

Modding a car is a lot like cooking-- it's done to one's tastes & seasoned by what he feels necessary to improve upon what's already in place.

Buying parts for the pure sake of doing so is like adding a cup of butter to a souflee because he liked the buttery taste of popcorn at the movie theatre last night & hope it might translate well to his dish.