wilwood 12.2 BBK

[thisisagame24]

i think you told me this jason but i forgot.....the saftey wire i got from napa was 19 guage....i think you said that was way to thick.....do you know what gauge or apporox what guage .032 in is?

[mario543k20]

thats why i love ephatch. everyones always down to help out another hatcher! good stuff in here!!

[weltall]

25 gauge

about as thin as a normal clothes pin

[adrian1281]

Typically the most common safety wire sizes are .020 and .032

I would recommend you use .032 as .020 is used for smaller fasteners.

According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge

.032 is about a 20 gauge. If you have 19 gauge already, I suppose you could use that. If I remember correctly from my military days, .032 is supposed to be twisted 6-8 times per inch. If you are using something thicker, then the twists per inch should go down. So aim for something around 5-7 per inch.

Wikipedia has a pretty good article too on safety wire in case you haven't read it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_wire

By the way, don't rely on the "swipes" to do all the work for you. A good "safety wirer" can do a perfect job without using "swipes". If the fasteners are close together, its probably easier to do the job by hand.

Post some pics when you're done so we can see how you did.

[player757]

lets say i dont have a harbor freight around here any where else i can go?

[adrian1281]

lets say i dont have a harbor freight around here any where else i can go?

If you are referring to safety wire pliers, Northern Tool has them:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...70_13244_13244

Sears as well (although much more expensive):
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00999358000P

Or you could always buy them online and have them shipped to you...

[player757]

im almost positive the answer is going to be no, but im gonna ask any way. Would it be saft to run with out safety wire and use red thread lock. its rated to 2700 degrees

[adrian1281]

im almost positive the answer is going to be no, but im gonna ask any way. Would it be saft to run with out safety wire and use red thread lock. its rated to 2700 degrees

I don't remember exactly which color Locktite it is (but I'm pretty sure it's the red) which is for fasteners that you pretty much will never take apart again. It is super strong. As a matter of fact on Locktite's page they list the red as, "Removable with heat and hand tools."

Since you will eventually need to replace the rotor due to wear, I would advise you not use the red.

I might be wrong here but since the rotor is turning at such high speed you run the risk of the bolts backing out if you don't safetywire them. Kind of why the crank pulley bolt on certain engines is left hand thread, so that the rotation of the motor doesn't cause it to loosen.

If you haven't safety wired before it's not a big deal, if you need help, just ask.

[player757]

no i just didnt have any wire and its a pain in the ass let me tell you, i just did it but i ran out of wire but i also used loctite red just as a percaution im sure i'll be able to get em out if i have to. i got impact guns

[weltall]

it isnt hard to safety wire
i have to do it all the time on helicopters
every bolt, screw, cannonplug allen bolt requires safety wire hell ive had to do it inspots where the only thing you can do is feel around cause you cannot see it

[adrian1281]

it isnt hard to safety wire
i have to do it all the time on helicopters
every bolt, screw, cannonplug allen bolt requires safety wire hell ive had to do it inspots where the only thing you can do is feel around cause you cannot see it

What helicopters do you work on and what is your job?

[weltall]

ch46e avionics

[adrian1281]

ch46e avionics

Nice, I was an Avionics Tech. as well in the Marines... Worked on 5 different helos: UH-1N, AH-1Z, CH-53E, VH-60N, and VH-3D.

Although I never worked on "Frogs", we had them at the squadron I was stationed at and I worked closely with CH-46 techs.

Nothing harder to safety wire than torque transmitters on a "46" that's for sure...

[weltall]

no there is something harder

pitch ELA (the two nuts to null it)
elbows deep in the flight control closet face pressed up against the armor

only the top sensor is a PITA for tq

what squadron are you at (i was at 365) now im at the schoolhouse

[adrian1281]

I was stationed at HMX-1, but I got out in 2005...