Reply With QuoteI am running or was running the 24mm Swift rear sway bar. It's a little pricey so . . . and I sold it on Craig's list like last week LOL.Originally Posted by liquid cooled
Anybody running these or know anything about them, I keep hearing that the progress bar is too much (maybe people just can drive it) and Im on tein flex which is fairly stiff suspension anyways. I dont know just looking for some other peoples expierences. I just saw these when browsing King Motorsports website.
I am running or was running the 24mm Swift rear sway bar. It's a little pricey so . . . and I sold it on Craig's list like last week LOL.
you going back to stock jerry?
Are you looking to tune the suspension or are you looking to attach more stickers to the side of the car?
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Well how was it while you had it, any fitment issues.
Dude more stickers for sure each ones like +5 whp, so ive got like 50 billion horsepower.
No looking to tune the suspension. I keep hearing the progress is too stiff, so im trying to find something that has some oversteer but not want to make you spin around. Im still wondering if its the bar or people driving like morons that causes the problem.
Musclime how do you like your cusco bar.
A 24mm sway bar is a 24mm sway bar. There will always be clearance issues with exhaust setups, which includes the design of the bar, the design of the exhaust, and the setup. It doesn't completely eliminate understeer if that is what you are asking, but it gives you enough decrease. If you prefer oversteer, just pick up a Hotchisk 27mm, which make you spin out if you are not careful.
Yes, T I am going back to stock and plan on selling the car.
Ok, 1st off. Tuning your suspension is nothing like tuning an engine.
With suspension's there are pro's and cons to every thing you do, And the best setup for your application can and probably will be different then the next person... Even if they started with the same setup.
So... 1st things 1st.
How is the car handling now, and what would you like it to do less or more of?
Is people driving/being like morons that causes the problems and they blame the car/part. I have the progress bar, not stiff at all, balances out car pretty well. As long as you know what you are doing a rear sway wont spin you out.
Well my car understeers through the apex of a corner at any speed over 40mph. I would love to get a more neutral or a little oversteer feel out of it.
On the throttle (Accelerating) or off the throttle (decelerating) or neutral?
and do you have adjustable dampers? whats your alignment look like?
And by through the apex, do you mean in the 1st half (corner entry to apex) of the turn or 2nd half (Apex to corner exit)?
Throttle on understeering through the middle of the apex and exit. If I let off then it tucks in quite nicely but I don't want to have to do that every apex exit and through the middle. I do not have adjustable dampers just skunk2 pro coil s coil overs. Any recommendations for adjustable inserts for the struts. Alignment is good.
Ok, couple of things to tweak 1st before we get to the car...
the 1st thing is to understand that throttle on understeer is 100% driver error. Remember, the car only has 100% traction available, and it can be used for turning, braking & accelerating as well as several combinations of those three.
So if you are in a turn and using 100% of your available traction for turning and then apply the throttle, that means that you now have less traction available for turning because its now being used for accelerating.
One of the better ways that I was taught in this regard is to imagine that the steering wheel controlled how much throttle you can apply at any time. The more away from center the wheel is turned, the less throttle you can apply with out causing understeer. This also applies to corner entry under braking (Known as Trail braking).
Basically if you are mid turn... you shouldn't be trying to accelerate.
2nd.. Learn to trail brake!
and 3rd, Late apex everything. This will prevent you from entering a turn to hot (which may very well be adding to your problem) and it will give you a longer acceleration zone coming out of said turn. not to mention its a good gauge as to if you are navigating the turn wrong... as in if you end up early apexing you know you screwed the turn up. Just as if you end up being pushed wide mid turn you know you entered the turn with too much speed.
Aside from that, for dampers, Soften the nose a bit & stiffen the rear a bit.
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