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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisagame24 View Post
    only one person has pulled it off sucessfully.

    when i had my JRSC r i went over a year with out a tune. the base map that kpro gives is good but wont give max power. its designed to run on the richer side to protect the motor. but not rich enough to bog it down. and you are really worried about a tune there are several members on here that could help you out with some street tuning.

    i kinda look at it this way....wait a few more months and get kpro and do the race upgrade then, or do it now with out it and run the risk of seriously damaging your motor. which will cost you a lot more than kpro. something about running 8lbs of boost with the stock ecu scares me


    and as for your problem did you install the map relocator bracket?

    No have not installed it but i do have it. I believe the other guys shaft broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    No have not installed it but i do have it. I believe the other guys shaft broke.
    huh??? that makes no sence

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    Most boost gauges are inaccurate (+-1.5psi). You really should move your map sensor to read off your manifold. Anyways, if your belt is damaged it's probably an issue with belt slippage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    For a year now i have had jrsc street version on my car. Recently i decided to upgrade and today i finally installed everything.

    Changes i have made:

    Changed 4.4" to 4" pulley with 62.2 inch gaterback belt.
    Replaced ngk spark plugs with ngk (iridium) spark plugs, but a step colder.
    Replaced stock injectors with RSX type s 310 cc injectors.
    Still with powercard.

    Previously the charger was producing 4 to 4.5 psi, as seen on the boost gauge. (Btw had a gates belt on there that was missing chunks of ribs, only after 10K miles)

    Now the boost gauge is only showing 5-5.2 (as far as i can tell) at 6.5K rpms
    Have tightened the belt as i thought this may have been the problem.

    Also i feel that between 5.5K and 6.5K rpms the rpms are not moving up steady, almost feeling as if it is holding back.

    Not sure what the problem is, maybe some off you help me out with an educated opinion.

    Now this is the cheap way out for not having kpro and tuning, so no need to comment on that.

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    You have to love it when people take a well thought out mod like the ghetto race kit and FUK IT UP!!!!! YOU CAN NOT RUN THE GHETTO RACE KIT WITH A RACE HEADER!!!!!!!! You need to put the stock cat back on right now or you are going to go lean over 5000rpm and kill your motor. There are a bunch of reasons for this, here are a couple.....
    1) The cat is a major restriction to flow and flow = hp. Your k20a2 310cc injectors are good to about 200-210 whp( if you do not agree with this, look at the dyno #'s over on crsx). With the stock cat in place, there is no way you can flow more than 200-210whp....so the cat is acting as a fail safe "restrictor plate" to keep you from going lean.
    2) Your stock ecu reads mixture from primary and secondary o2 sensors. With a race header, there is no way you are getting a good reading from the secondary o2 sensor so you are ether running with a cel or you are running with a defouler....both are stupid. If you are running with a cel, your ecu is "seeing" to much CO from the secondary o2 sensor(the cat changes CO to CO2). The ecu's response to this is to dump gas because it "thinks" you are running lean(or the it thinks you have a failed cat) because CO is a result of a lean hot burn....just a fyi...you are going to be getting like 20mpg like this....:tehehe:
    If you are running a defouler you may or may not pop a cel from reading lean from the primary o2 ( o2 sensor's get lees accurate as they age)because you will be going lean at high rpm.

    Do whatever you want but imo you will burn a valve or kill your rings very quick with a race header and a getto race kit, mine has been running fine for a year now with the cat in place. I also get 26-30 mpg with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR.Pizza View Post
    Most boost gauges are inaccurate (+-1.5psi). You really should move your map sensor to read off your manifold. Anyways, if your belt is damaged it's probably an issue with belt slippage.
    No i replaced it with a new gaterback belt. But yeah it could be that my boost gauge is inaccurate. Something i also have not thought about is the fact that with the reflash or kpro the rev limiter is set higher. And when doing a run i did not go above 6.5K rpms. So that may account for the fact that my psi is not as high. And also i am waiting to take my header of before i run hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mustclime View Post
    Do whatever you want but imo you will burn a valve or kill your rings very quick with a race header and a getto race kit, mine has been running fine for a year now with the cat in place. I also get 26-30 mpg with it.
    This is something that i had you have stated in one of your previous posts. I am not running it hard right now, just did a pull yesterday to see what the result was.

    But either way i contiplated on taking my jrrh off a while back when i was debating on installing the 4 inch pulley. So no i am not fuk ing up my car. I understand very well, but i appreciate the information.

    So i will have a jrrh up for sale soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisagame24 View Post
    huh??? that makes no sence
    The guy broke his charger, not due to the fact that he had the race kit installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohdamngetit View Post
    I seriously LOL'd hahahahaha. Def sig quality!
    bammmmmmmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch797 View Post
    bammmmmmmmmm.
    Wait, arent you the guy that let his friend drive his car, and then misshifted and blew the engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    The guy broke his charger, not due to the fact that he had the race kit installed.
    exactly, it was me. had nothing to do with the fact that i had the race kit installed.

    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    No have not installed it but i do have it. I believe the other guys shaft broke.
    yup shaft broke, not even under boost!!! i was at a stop sign and went to pull forward and it snapped. it has happened to a few other people and my kit had over 40k on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    Could be, but both members mustclimb and nrginny have a simular setup, or had. Except mustclimb has stock header.

    So the fact that at least one other setup produced normal psi for racekit indicates to me that i have a problem somewhere.
    when i was running the ghetto kit, my gauge was showing 7psi. trust me you would know if its not boosting at 7psi. just listen, 7psi is alot louder then 5psi.

    Quote Originally Posted by thisisagame24 View Post
    only one person has pulled it off sucessfully.

    when i had my JRSC r i went over a year with out a tune. the base map that kpro gives is good but wont give max power. its designed to run on the richer side to protect the motor. but not rich enough to bog it down. and you are really worried about a tune there are several members on here that could help you out with some street tuning.

    i kinda look at it this way....wait a few more months and get kpro and do the race upgrade then, or do it now with out it and run the risk of seriously damaging your motor. which will cost you a lot more than kpro. something about running 8lbs of boost with the stock ecu scares me


    and as for your problem did you install the map relocator bracket?
    i ran fine on the powercard mike. obviously there is a risk, but then again there is a risk whenever you do any mods.

    point blank, i had no problems with my car, never threw a lean code or anything while running the race kit. actually i was running quite rich, since it smelled of unburned gasoline when i was babying the car. mind you i was running a cai/shorty header/test pipe/exhaust.

    the only downfall of the ghetto kit is that your mpg is going to suffer heavily. think about it, you have bigger injectors to compensate for the more boost created, but out of boost there is more fuel going in.

    mustclime does not recommend using a race header, but i had no cat on my setup and ran fine.

    i suggest buying a wideband or going to a dyno and getting you air/fuel under boost. i never got the chance to.

    have fun and good luck. btw i'm not saying that your car is going to run fine, i'm just telling you that mine did on that setup, but then again every car is different, so getting your air/fuel checked out is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch797 View Post
    bammmmmmmmmm.
    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    Wait, arent you the guy that let his friend drive his car, and then misshifted and blew the engine?
    nope that was me also

    never again will i let anybody drive my car

    and thats the reason why i didn't have the money to fix the charger, so i had to part it out. but i do still have the race kit and 310cc injectors if anybody needs them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mustclime View Post
    2) Your stock ecu reads mixture from primary and secondary o2 sensors. With a race header, there is no way you are getting a good reading from the secondary o2 sensor so you are ether running with a cel or you are running with a defouler....both are stupid. If you are running with a cel, your ecu is "seeing" to much CO from the secondary o2 sensor(the cat changes CO to CO2). The ecu's response to this is to dump gas because it "thinks" you are running lean(or the it thinks you have a failed cat) because CO is a result of a lean hot burn....just a fyi...you are going to be getting like 20mpg like this....:tehehe:
    The secondary O2 sensor is not used for A/F monitoring at all. Its only purpose is to check whether the cat is functioning. The primary O2 sensor is the A/F sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbpracer View Post
    Wait, arent you the guy that let his friend drive his car, and then misshifted and blew the engine?
    Yea, that's me. But it worked out great for me. I went big block.

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    hey pj im not tryin to make fun of you or anything but i do remember you have some issues when you had the blower on....esp running lean codes as well as having weird ideling issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisagame24 View Post



    hey pj im not tryin to make fun of you or anything but i do remember you have some issues when you had the blower on....esp running lean codes as well as having weird ideling issues
    yea i did at the begining, but the problem was fixed before the race kit went on. the cause of the problem was that the studs backed out on the supercharger to the head. it was causing a huge leak causing the lean codes and the idle to flucuate. after that, never threw a code and the idle was perfect.

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