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    Oil Consumption >.<

    So I thought it would be a good idea to check my oil, low and behold - my oil was low.

    The oil light never came on, but the oil level was def below the "min" on the dipstick. It was about halfway between the end of the dipstick and the "min" (I am a total car n00b, but I'm assuming the two holes at the end represent min and max)

    I'm freaking out now... my baby!

    It's been just under 6000km (~3700mi) since my last oil change. I changed it the day I purchased the car (second hand, 02 with 85,500km ~ 53k mi ...).

    The previous owner ran Group III Castrol "Synthetic" with oil changes from 5-7000km ~ 3-4000mi. Never heard of him having issues with oil consumption, though I could always ask him.

    I switched to Group IV fully synthetic Esso XD-3 for my oil change with a Napa Gold (rebranded Wix) filter.

    Anyone have oil consumption issues? Going from Group III to Group IV synthetic?

    How do I know how much oil I should "top up"? I don't want it to go completely dry. But I don't want to overfill either.

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    My car will use about a quart of oil between 3K mile oil changes, and has since I bought it at 26K miles.

    I'd just change it now, and then fill the crankcase with oil until it registers even with the top mark on the dipstick on a level surface. The owner's manual says 4.5 qts. with a filter change, but it will hold closer to 5 quarts. When you have the oil filled to the upper mark on the dipstick, you can then monitor your oil usage to the next oil change.

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    That has happened to me several times. I should be checking my oil more consistently but too busy and get lazy sometimes. But once or twice ill go through a cyn or a sharp turn and thats when the oil light comes on. I usually put 10w40 and about 4.5 qts and my baby consumes oil like nothing. concerns my a bit so ima go check on it soon. Ima put in 5 now and see how that goes now that chevydan metioned it. Thanks bro.

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    I'm at just over 170k miles and my EP consumes A LOT of oil. I use Mobil 1 5W-20.

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    The Kseries goes through alot of oil, it is due to the unusually high oil pressure required for VTEC and VTC. This increased oil pressure and volume is pumped through the main bearings were it escapes under very high pressures and it is whipped up into a very dense oil vapor, this oil vapor exits the engine case via the PCV and is burned off.

    Use of the 20 weight swill exaggerates this affect.

    The owners manual expressly states that you check your oil level at each and every fuel fill-up for this EXACT reason, so stop being lazy and check it!
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    As a new EP3 owner, and coming from a previous engine that ate a quart every ~1250 miles, I must say I am impressed with how little oil I have needed to ad to my hatch. I check it every week!
    Last edited by Ygrene; 09-19-2008 at 05:25 PM.

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    in 3000 miles mine will consume 1.5-2quarts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygrene View Post
    I'm at just over 170k miles and my EP consumes A LOT of oil. I use Mobil 1 5W-20.
    I tried 2 changes with 10-something mobil one and mine used over 3 quarts in 3k miles(30k on the clock). I have since been using 15-40 rotella in the summer and 10-40 penzoil in the winter(now has 130k) and it uses just over a quart every 5k. I put an air dryer(for air compressors) in the vac line to the intake mani to help catch some of the vapors. Like Doug said, it sucks ALOT through the intake. Its very obvious when you put the filter on it.

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    I have found that Mobil1 and RP seem to flash off far quicker than other brands of oil that I have used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by talonXracer View Post
    The Kseries goes through alot of oil, it is due to the unusually high oil pressure required for VTEC and VTC. This increased oil pressure and volume is pumped through the main bearings were it escapes under very high pressures and it is whipped up into a very dense oil vapor, this oil vapor exits the engine case via the PCV and is burned off.

    Use of the 20 weight swill exaggerates this affect.

    The owners manual expressly states that you check your oil level at each and every fuel fill-up for this EXACT reason, so stop being lazy and check it!
    Thanks for the info!

    I just checked my oil again, and it seems to be "okay" now. I didn't add any oil. Weird. Maybe the first time the car wasn't on a level surface, or maybe the dipstick just isn't a good way to determine oil level. Hm. I suppose it's a good thing the oil light never came on.

    Quote Originally Posted by dobbs02si View Post
    I tried 2 changes with 10-something mobil one and mine used over 3 quarts in 3k miles(30k on the clock). I have since been using 15-40 rotella in the summer and 10-40 penzoil in the winter(now has 130k) and it uses just over a quart every 5k. I put an air dryer(for air compressors) in the vac line to the intake mani to help catch some of the vapors. Like Doug said, it sucks ALOT through the intake. Its very obvious when you put the filter on it.
    As a complete car newbie, can you explain in a bit more detail what this means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail iMAGED View Post
    As a new EP3 owner, and coming from a previous engine that ate a quart every ~1250 miles, I must say I am impressed with how little oil I have needed to ad to my hatch. I check it every week!
    You had a rx-8!? (giggle)
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    Quote Originally Posted by beechstreet View Post
    in 3000 miles mine will consume 1.5-2quarts.
    same here dude. i just did my oil change last week it looked like it consumed 1.5-2 quarts. and i tried out those napa gold oil filters. i like 'em haha at first i was worried 'cus i couldnt get it fit on there but i was trippin.

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    if the engine consumes motor oil, does it mean there's something wrong with the engine or that's the way it is for k20?

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    I don't think it was stated but waiting for the oil light to come is not a good idea. When that light comes one its too late.
    So check it often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechstreet View Post
    in 3000 miles mine will consume 1.5-2quarts.
    same here. i add oil occasionally, but this time i accidently added a bit too much. it's a little over the top dot. & is there a way to drain a bit without going through the bottom?
    Last edited by MBaG; 05-08-2010 at 02:13 PM.

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