Do you need kpro? for after market cams???

[BajaPantiEP]

i was thinking of getting some skunk 2, or brian crower stage 1 cams do i need k pro to tune them or is it plug and play?

[Garrett]

not needed, but highly recommended.. Other people correct me if i'm wrong but that's what i've been told. Also your probably going to need some valves if your using it as a daily driver. And you will need an ecu, such as kpro, to tune it

[urthworm]

Ive heard of people just dropping in cams and calling it a day.. but ive never seen how they ran. I know with kpro and a tune you will obviously get the most out of it. Is this for the a3 motor?

[BajaPantiEP]

Ive heard of people just dropping in cams and calling it a day.. but ive never seen how they ran. I know with kpro and a tune you will obviously get the most out of it. Is this for the a3 motor?

yes for the a3... i pulled my valve cover and my exhaust came in pitted next to cylinder 4

[eastsiderider]

I have been running Skunk2 stage 1's in my k20a3 with no kpro and a stock valve train for over 3 years now. I have put over 60k on them. The power gain is very noticable....however, tuned you will make more. I went to a dyno meet a few years back and made 169-170 whp with an AEM V2 intake, DC shorty header and a Buddy Club ProSpec exhaust. The car was still equipped with the factory catalytic converter.

[talonXracer]

The stage1's are fantastic upgrades from stock, they give a bit more and require no kpro to have a properly running engine.

[affiq]

thats true...u dont need a kpro...but its better to have it too squeeze out all the power...

[Jharobikesr2]

Stage 1: Kpro is not required, but i would recommend it.
Stage 2 and 3: Kpro is required to maintain stock drive-ability.



Personal note: I made 23Hp from stage 1 cams on my JRSC k20a3, but DO NOT forget to invest into a timing chain tensioner. Aftermarket cams wear the stock unit out, and that will cause your timing chain to slip and well........ lets just say it gets ugly.

[BajaPantiEP]

thanks guys ou really helped me out stage one it is:D now since i have a pited cam do you guys suggest in replacing anything else?

[talonXracer]

Personal note: I made 23Hp from stage 1 cams on my JRSC k20a3, but DO NOT forget to invest into a timing chain tensioner. Aftermarket cams wear the stock unit out, and that will cause your timing chain to slip and well........ lets just say it gets ugly.

There are other items of far more necessity to prevent cam timing jumpage, the 07+ K20Z3 upper chain guide and aftermarket lower chain guard(not a guide, but a guard). I had a tensioner completely fail, ie the bolts that hold it in snapped off, the chain made a hell of alot of noise, but it NEVER jumped timing!

I havnt seen a stg 1-2 cam tear up a tensioner or a chain any more than stock.

Stage 2 can be run with a stock ECU as well, but it wont be optimal, the valvetrain will need upgrading(stock typeS valvetrain works wonders and is far cheaper than the crap sold along with the cams)(A3 stg2 cams are slightly smaller than the small lobes on the stock K20A2)


I would seriously consider a new oil pump, the debris caught in the pan is picked up and is forced thru the oil pump BEFORE going to the oil filter, also remember that not all the oil is sent thru the filter each pass, so debris does get sent thru the engine, so a good pan flush is required.

[NGS]

so can i make my a3 work with:

K&N sri
DCRH
EXHAUST
skunk2 stage 1
Skunk2 Timing Chain Tensioner
HONDATA Reflash
ACT XACT StreetLite Flywheel (11.4lbs)
Exedy Cerametallic Stage II Clutch

and be putting around 180whp? thanks :D

[talonXracer]

You will probably see a lean condition at WOT with full bolt-ons and a reflash.

[NGS]

You will probably see a lean condition at WOT with full bolt-ons and a reflash.

so i don't use reflash? :S sorry im new to this whole engine thing :(

[RHCP0801]

you wont see 180hp with that setup, especially with an sri and the crappy dc sports header

you can use the reflash with that setup, i ran reflash with full bolt ons and no problems for about a year

[talonXracer]

Hondata even states that the reflash will be lean with full bolt-on's.