Reply With Quotewell at least you gave it a shot.. that is pretty hard stuff if you havent done one yet..
Yeah for those who have or are going to install springs yourself dont be suprised when the tie rod and strut don't come aprt. So after banging the living piss outta the bolt (like an hour) it didnt bugde and I even managed to damage the threads on the bottom, had to freaking hack about two thread lengths off (but thats another story). So i noticed that civic hatch boi worked inside the well and used a spring compressor, but I dont have access to one at the moment so i want to know what others have done beside hitting the bolt with wood/ hammer/ whatever. I was thinking of leaving the brake set up intack, loosening the nut attached to the tie rod just a smidge and standing on the brake set up to unjar the freaking thing. Someone is going to let me use a tool called a punch (dunno what it is yet)on thursday so i'll try that. But if nothing works by then Im going to just have it done at a pro shop b/c it's too dang cold out and without a spring compressor the tierod situation seems like more trouble than it's worth at the moment. So somebody/ anybody let me know what tricks you have done or seen to unjar the tie rod and strut please.
Thanx
David
well at least you gave it a shot.. that is pretty hard stuff if you havent done one yet..
Pay $100 (that's what I paid) and have an import mod shop do it for you. That's what I did after getting the correct springs and doing it twice myself. It will be $100 well spent, trust me! :)
http://www.pryor.ws/honda/gallery1.htm
That link is great, thanks hondaman.:)
No problem...happy to help when I can! :)Originally posted by myeverlovinsir
That link is great, thanks hondaman.:)
wow, I'm sorry to hear you had a hard time. I've done spring installs on the si a few times now. I never had a problem. The initial install is the hardest, as everything is settled in tightly. Basically for that tie rod I backed the nut down to the end of the bolt, so that when I used a big rubber mallet, it would keep from hitting the threads. It is also important not to back the nut down to far, to where you are hitting the nut in a way that it is taking all the impact.Originally posted by Beachya
Yeah for those who have or are going to install springs yourself dont be suprised when the tie rod and strut don't come aprt. So after banging the living piss outta the bolt (like an hour) it didnt bugde and I even managed to damage the threads on the bottom, had to freaking hack about two thread lengths off (but thats another story). So i noticed that civic hatch boi worked inside the well and used a spring compressor, but I dont have access to one at the moment so i want to know what others have done beside hitting the bolt with wood/ hammer/ whatever. I was thinking of leaving the brake set up intack, loosening the nut attached to the tie rod just a smidge and standing on the brake set up to unjar the freaking thing. Someone is going to let me use a tool called a punch (dunno what it is yet)on thursday so i'll try that. But if nothing works by then Im going to just have it done at a pro shop b/c it's too dang cold out and without a spring compressor the tierod situation seems like more trouble than it's worth at the moment. So somebody/ anybody let me know what tricks you have done or seen to unjar the tie rod and strut please.
Thanx
David
You want to back that nut down till it is flush with the bottom of the bolt,so when you hit that nut/bolt, you are hitting both at the same time with the mallet. I had problems with the tie rod when I kept hitting the bolt/nut while laying down. I tried kneeling and hitting it with the mallet and still had problems. Then I knew I was just being to dang gental. So I tried again while kneeling and hit it again a few times as hard as I could and finally the damn thing came out. It will take a while the first time.
As for the spring compressor, I highly advise using one. you can get away with it, but you would need an allen wrench to keep the top of the strut from turning while unscrewing the nut. It's a pain in the but, but can be done. But like I said, get a spring compressor, it will make it sooooo much easier. There's two types really. I think you can even get one at an autoshop that is small, but does the job. Other types are huge and usually mounted to a wall at suspension shops (the one I used).
Good luck man! :)
why for the love of all that is holy does no one use a tie rod puller?
it's a 10$ tool at the local auto parts store, and pops tie rods off in seconds.
02SilverSiHB- glad to hear it can be done.i will try it as you did and see if it comes off. Also I was just told earlier today that I should buy a tie rod separator ($10) or I could rent one from autozone with a credit card (no charge). Any experience using this? I'll go by a few shops tomorrow and check them out.
Thanx for the feedback!
Hondaman- your step by step with pics is great! Thanx! So yeah, I'll give it anther try, if nothing...it's off to the mod shop i go
David
Last edited by Beachya; 01-07-2003 at 10:07 PM.
lol, we must have posted at the same time...im glad to hear that it is a good tool to useand will buy it first thing tomorrow.Originally posted by chunky
why for the love of all that is holy does no one use a tie rod puller?
it's a 10$ tool at the local auto parts store, and pops tie rods off in seconds.
:D yeah, that tool is supposed to make it come out in like a split second, but the shop I was at didn't have it, so I just used a mallet. If all else fails, go get one and make it easier on yourself :)Originally posted by Beachya
lol, we must have posted at the same time...im glad to hear that it is a good tool to useand will buy it first thing tomorrow.
I'm gonna take my tie rod puller into work and take some pics to encourage people to buy one instead of fucking up their threads etc with a hammer. . ..Originally posted by Beachya
lol, we must have posted at the same time...im glad to hear that it is a good tool to useand will buy it first thing tomorrow.
I used a mallet, sledge, tie rod puller/separator, and brute force and I still couldn't get it off. So you know what I did? I paid some else to do it. Of course it would be much simpler if I had a lift!!;)
Just hit the strut arm where the tie rod attaches to and it will pop up. I'll cut my balls off if it doesn't. When I did my coilovers I went through the same thing, thanks to my dad (a mechanic of a quarter of a century) who told me where to hit it right to avoid damage to the tie. G Luck!Originally posted by Beachya
Yeah for those who have or are going to install springs yourself dont be suprised when the tie rod and strut don't come aprt. So after banging the living piss outta the bolt (like an hour) it didnt bugde and I even managed to damage the threads on the bottom, had to freaking hack about two thread lengths off (but thats another story). So i noticed that civic hatch boi worked inside the well and used a spring compressor, but I dont have access to one at the moment so i want to know what others have done beside hitting the bolt with wood/ hammer/ whatever. I was thinking of leaving the brake set up intack, loosening the nut attached to the tie rod just a smidge and standing on the brake set up to unjar the freaking thing. Someone is going to let me use a tool called a punch (dunno what it is yet)on thursday so i'll try that. But if nothing works by then Im going to just have it done at a pro shop b/c it's too dang cold out and without a spring compressor the tierod situation seems like more trouble than it's worth at the moment. So somebody/ anybody let me know what tricks you have done or seen to unjar the tie rod and strut please.
Thanx
David
If you have the money, paying someone else to do it is well worth the investment...not to mention saving you a possible BIG headache (trust me I know).
Of course, the exception would be if you're dirt poor (still probably cost you some money in tools...etc.) and/or just love doing things like this yourself.
Last edited by HondaMan; 01-08-2003 at 01:25 PM.
tie rod puller
go buy one. nuff said. pictures speak for themselves.
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