Reply With Quotewheres that shop at????? Do the have a web site? Where are you stationed?
I'm stationed about an hour away. Foward thrust is the shop I'm going to. I'm about 2 1/2 to 3 hours from where you are.
wheres that shop at????? Do the have a web site? Where are you stationed?
http://www.forwardthrust.net/
It's not much of a site, but he is in lees's Summit. He drives an Si and he goes by the name "oldsiman" on ephatch. He has the hondata ecu done to his car and says it's great. Oh yeah...I'm stationed at Whiteman AFB
I'd like to get in on this. Who do I need to get ahold of to get this done?
haha, no wonder you're so bent out of shape about the welding! you don't understand the benefit!Originally posted by ADAMnQuickCIVIC
What i truly do not understand about this Borla header is this:
If it's so nice and they actually spent any time developing it then what the HELL is so hard about slapping a damn flange on the end of it so it can just be *BOLTED* onto the damn cat. converter.
HOW IS THAT SO HARD??
okay, the reason for the weld is b/c by cutting off the downpipe leading into the cat, which is a good 8"-12" long, borla's engineers were able to lengthen the primaries of the header, thus allowing them to get more favorable resonance effects.
so it's not like they can just put a flange on the end, b/c there is no corresponding flange at the mouth of the cat. Remember, on our cars the header comes together and into the downpipe (which is actually an e-pipe) and then into the cat. The downpipe is WELDED to the cat. If there was a flange there, I'm certain borla would have put a flange there.
But if you really want a flange, you could get one done custom ;) for a bit extra. Just tell them to put a flange at the mouth of the cat, and put a flange on the end of the borla header. viola you have a flange.
But what's the big deal anyhow? The borla header is a 2 piece, so the cat will still drop out with relative ease with the 2nd half of the borla header welded to it.
and btw, the reason why the intake is so expensive is b/c it's a one off. If you've ever made a one off of anything, you know that it's way more expensive than mass production. Once my intake is prototyped and tested on my car, if the dyno results are favorable, I might see about having a lot of 20 or so units produced. that would hedge the costs down to about the cost of most cai's
Last edited by chunky; 05-09-2003 at 08:19 PM.
Ah HA!Originally posted by chunky
haha, no wonder you're so bent out of shape about the welding! you don't understand the benefit!
okay, the reason for the weld is b/c by cutting off the downpipe leading into the cat, which is a good 8"-12" long, borla's engineers were able to lengthen the primaries of the header, thus allowing them to get more favorable resonance effects.
Gotcha, now i understand.
Anyone got a picture of this yet??
Picture is worth 1000 words.
no pics =\Originally posted by ADAMnQuickCIVIC
Ah HA!
Gotcha, now i understand.
Anyone got a picture of this yet??
Picture is worth 1000 words.
I will have mine on monday. I will post the pics. Tons of pics.
picture
header
i want to go with a borla exhaust
i like the dual tips like stock. so how much can you get it for . let me know and ill get in with you . or do u know how or who carry it
ok....I just got off the phone with 21st century, they said the best they could do is 297 not shipped, shipping should be about another 20-30 dollars...
if anyone is still interested in this buy post AFTER this post...Please keep the posting to a minimum of your thoughts on the topic until i have all the people that want to get this header posted first!
Eric
whats their regular price on this?
Part Number:17219
Product Description:T-304 STAINLESS STEEL
Product Type:HEADER
Make:HONDA
Vehicle:CIVIC Si
Model:2.0L 4CYL FWD AT/MT 2DR
Year:2001-02
$395.99
thats on Borla.com
now when i talked to the guys @ 21st century, i think that there were so many inquires about the header (cause of all of us) that they either found out that they were getting low balled on the header, or they jacked up their price, cause when i called back up for the group buy...they said that they would give us the group buy @ 297 because the old price, (i think of 280 w/o group buy) was incorrect...
so this is the last time im going to ask everyone for a group buy....
so far i am the only person getting this...anyone else?
please email me with a:
Subject line: I would like borla header
email body: your home address, or where ever your having it shipped...(so i can find out what the final cost is going to be for everyone that gets in on it)
etorretti@wilmingtontrust.com
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