Full Race Turbo Coming Up...Need HELP with Parts List

[MadLorEP3]

Hey EPHATCHERS...

Just finished my swap and I decided to SKIP the SC route. Noob to the turbo game and need your input. Would you be kind enough to let me know if I am missing anything else on my list of parts below.

I have an 04 EP3 with an 07 K24A2 (stock internals) and EP3 5 SPD TRANNY. I already have KPRO & MOTORMOUNTS. Power goaqls at least 400HP (for now) and at least 300TQ on 91 high octane gas. My ep is not my DD and I DON'T TRAQCK, DRAG, AUTOCROSS. In the future, I might be open to any of these events time if time permits.

I'm trying to figure out what parts are needed now and what part can wait. Here is my part list so far...Pls let me know what I'm missing...
EDIT: Here is my UPDATED LIST 1/29/11 everythign is bought BNIB...

1. FR GT3582R Single Scroll Turbo Kit HPC w/ BC turbo timer, KN filter & FR vacuum block, Gold wrap $4274
2. Quaife LSD $746
3. Competition Clutch Stage 4 sprung, 6 puck $330
4. Hondata 4 bar base map $75
5. Hondata Boost Solenoid $75
6. Odessy Battery PC680 + terminals $99
7. NGK Iridium NGK-BKR8EIX $25
8. Thermal 3” full exhaust system $540
9. Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors $410
10. Hybrid Racing Black Fuel Rail $145
11. Walbro INTANK HP fuel pump GSS342 + installation kit $70
12. Tunerview RD1 + KPRO module $275
13. Honda Clutch Master Cylinder [2004 Honda civic ex (EM2)] 46920-S5A-G05 $107
14. Oil Catch Can $32
15. OEM type-s flywheel $55
16. Fuel management and brake lines and fittings $800
17. AC lines and fittings $290








Misc
Fuel Management: (I need to read up on this, Do I need a fuel return system???)
a) ID 1000 cc Injectors
b) HR black fuel rail (with -6AN fitting adapters)
c) Aeromotive FPR with 1:1 boost reference port (ie, aeromotive A1000, make sure to get -6AN fittings for it) (not sure if I should go with fuel lab or aeromotive, any advice???)
d) Walbro INTANK fuel pump GSS342
e) Walbro INLINE fuel pump 255lph [COLOR="red"][B]
f) Aeromotive inline fuel filter [(x1) -10AN fuel filter 10 microns]
g) (x1) 5/16” submersible fuel line (Napa NBH N209 (Gates hose part 27093) 12” )
h) (x1) 1 3/8” submersible fuel line (Napa NBH N213 (Gates hose part 27097) 12”)
i) Aeromotive Billet fuel filter bracket
j) Fuel gauge liquid filled (what brand do you recommend?)





Can someone PLEASE explain to me how to set up this fuel management thing, or at least point me in the right direction???

tnx in advance...

[BaLisTek]

i have a feeling your car and my mind will become "blown" in this thread =) Wish I had knowledge to help you out. Best of luck mate

[urthworm]

Are you going to run pump gas or e85? how much power are you shooting for?

[RHCP0801]

you only need the push on fuel fitting if you are using the stock fuel line, if you end up running a return fuel system than you dont. Im running a hr fuel rail with push on fitting on my k24 right now

[monjarassi]

like (earthworm) said it matters to see wat u want and will need. Also i didnt see u post a down pipe, and do you have kpro?? As for axles it all depends on power u seeking. I have a diagram ill post up for the fuel setup that should help u out man.

[Canuck Civic]

You can check out this guys fuel return setup on a RSX

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=666593

[monjarassi]

Heres a perfect example if u plan on going all out.. Hope it helps

[RHCP0801]

he is running a k24a2 so he has to have kpro

[MadLorEP3]

Heres a perfect example if u plan on going all out.. Hope it helps

So the main parts that I need not including fittings and AN's
are
1) fuel rail + 1000cc injectors
2) FPR
3) Walbro INTANK fuel pump
4) Bosch 44 INLINE fuel pump
5) Fuel filter

Question is whether to go with Bosch or walbro for the INILINE fuel pump

[TigerBallZ]

1)FR EFR 7670 T3 Single Scroll Turbo kit (already comes with internal BOV, WG, boost solenoid but Im
unsure if it already comes with a DOWNPIPE???)
Hell Yeah! The kit should come with a dp, and you will have to fab up where it meets the "catback." You may want to mention it's a K24 since it's a little taller.
2) Quaife LSD
Good
3) CC stg 4, 6 puck, sprung
Good. That's what I'm running. Easy to drive and lasts a long time.
4) OEM type s flywheel
Good
5) Hondata 4 bar map
Good
5) Odessy battery pc680 + terminals
Good. I have the Xstatic 800. You may want to consider car audio batteries and compare it to the Odessy. I do have a battery tender when it's parked.
6) NGK IRIDIUM IX Spark Plugs BKR8EIX (Should I go with 8 or 9???)
8 is perfect for you power goals.
7) Thermal 3" exhaust system
Good. May still need to fab where it meets the dp.
8) DSS axles (Are these needed now?)
I'm running on stock...Adavane Auto Parts axles, GSP brand. I carry a pair with me, I run it hard. Since I had the current setup, I snapped it twice at the track, and one time on the street. If you can afford it, got for it.
9) Oil Catch Can (not sure where to buy this or what brand???)
I currently don't have one, but I hear it's good to vent the PCV valve.
10) Gauges For interior of car (Which gauges do I need???)
It's up to you I say. I have a boost gauge, and a NGK AFX that I haven't installed. KPro has many safety features to save your motor. Make sure the tuner set it up. Lean cut and boost cut
11) Fucking Fuel Management: (I need to read up on this, Do I need a fuel return system???)
a) ID 1000
b) HR black fuel rail (Do I also need the HR push on fitting?)
c) Aeromotive FPR (not sure if I should go with fuel lab or aeromotive, any advice???)
d) Walbro INLINE fuel pump 255lph
e) Walbro INTANK fuel pump (Not sure if I need BOTH INTANK or INLINE FUEL PUMP or just INTANK???)
f) Aeromotive inline fuel filter
g) Gates fuel line 12" (not sure how long I need???)
h) Aeromotive Billet fuel filter bracket
i) Fuel gauge (not sure which one or what specific gauge I need???)
I'm currently running one Walbro 255, but I have a return line. You may want to look into the new Deatschwerks fuel pump. It's an intank that'll support way more than what you're currently looking for.
Running a new feed and return can add a bunch of cost from lines, fittings, rail, and regulator. You can get away with the stock fuel setup, and go with 1000cc injectors.
When you get in the mid 400whp range, the you may want to think about a return line.

[MadLorEP3]

1)FR EFR 7670 T3 Single Scroll Turbo kit (already comes with internal BOV, WG, boost solenoid but Im
unsure if it already comes with a DOWNPIPE???)
Hell Yeah! The kit should come with a dp, and you will have to fab up where it meets the "catback." You may want to mention it's a K24 since it's a little taller.
OK...yeah I need a pipe between the down pipe and the catback check2) Quaife LSD
Good
3) CC stg 4, 6 puck, sprung
Good. That's what I'm running. Easy to drive and lasts a long time.
4) OEM type s flywheel
Good
5) Hondata 4 bar map
Good
5) Odessy battery pc680 + terminals
Good. I have the Xstatic 800. You may want to consider car audio batteries and compare it to the Odessy. I do have a battery tender when it's parked.
When I park I can just disconnect battery and that should protect it from being drained right?
6) NGK IRIDIUM IX Spark Plugs BKR8EIX (Should I go with 8 or 9???)
8 is perfect for you power goals.
Sweet going with 8 then
7) Thermal 3" exhaust system
Good. May still need to fab where it meets the dp.
Got it will do
8) DSS axles (Are these needed now?)
I'm running on stock...Adavane Auto Parts axles, GSP brand. I carry a pair with me, I run it hard. Since I had the current setup, I snapped it twice at the track, and one time on the street. If you can afford it, got for it.
ok so which one snapped the stock or the GSP brand? do you think I should go with GSP or DSS brand? Yeah, I might as well get it now...want to minimize problems later
9) Oil Catch Can (not sure where to buy this or what brand???)
I currently don't have one, but I hear it's good to vent the PCV valve.
Sorry...which one is the pcv valve
10) Gauges For interior of car (Which gauges do I need???)
It's up to you I say. I have a boost gauge, and a NGK AFX that I haven't installed. KPro has many safety features to save your motor. Make sure the tuner set it up. Lean cut and boost cut
11) Fucking Fuel Management: (I need to read up on this, Do I need a fuel return system???)
a) ID 1000cc injectorrs
b) HR black fuel rail (Do I also need the HR push on fitting?)
c) Aeromotive FPR (not sure if I should go with fuel lab or aeromotive, any advice???)
d) Walbro INLINE fuel pump 255lph
e) Walbro INTANK fuel pump (Not sure if I need BOTH INTANK or INLINE FUEL PUMP or just INTANK???)
f) Aeromotive inline fuel filter
g) Gates fuel line 12" (not sure how long I need???)
h) Aeromotive Billet fuel filter bracket
i) Fuel gauge (not sure which one or what specific gauge I need???)
I'm currently running one Walbro 255, but I have a return line. You may want to look into the new Deatschwerks fuel pump. It's an intank that'll support way more than what you're currently looking for. Ok I will look into this Deatschwerks fuel pump
Running a new feed and return can add a bunch of cost from lines, fittings, rail, and regulator. You can get away with the stock fuel setup, and go with 1000cc injectors.
When you get in the mid 400whp range, the you may want to think about a return line.

I want to do as much now so i dont have to later so I wanna go all out in terms of the fuel management so I will do a return line as well now tnx

[MadLorEP3]

Do I need a vacuum distribution block???

[urthworm]

A vacuum block would help. and i dont think you will need a inline fuel pump for 400whp, i didnt. The walbro 255 should be just fine for the mean time.. i think they are good for around 500, but i never pushed mine that far.

I ran a return line but with the new bosh 1000cc injectors from crsx i was told you dont have to run it.. Ive seen people do it both ways.

Again.. i bought dss axles but i know of an rsx here in town using stockers and making 477whp and his are holding up. I dont know how they would do with slicks though.

I didnt use a catch can.. i just let it vent.

Get a oil fitting for the oil feed and a fitting for the oil pan.. for the return line. Crsx sells those too.

I always went the safe route with my builds but there are always those budget builds that push oem parts to the extreme and some how they hold up..

Oh and i think just a boost gauge is all you will need.

Ive been out of the turbo game for about a year, so if anyone has some updated or newer advice please correct me...

[monjarassi]

A vacuum block would help. and i dont think you will need a inline fuel pump for 400whp, i didnt. The walbro 255 should be just fine for the mean time.. i think they are good for around 500, but i never pushed mine that far.

I ran a return line but with the new bosh 1000cc injectors from crsx i was told you dont have to run it.. Ive seen people do it both ways.

Again.. i bought dss axles but i know of an rsx here in town using stockers and making 477whp and his are holding up. I dont know how they would do with slicks though.

I didnt use a catch can.. i just let it vent.

Get a oil fitting for the oil feed and a fitting for the oil pan.. for the return line. Crsx sells those too.

I always went the safe route with my builds but there are always those budget builds that push oem parts to the extreme and some how they hold up..

Oh and i think just a boost gauge is all you will need.

Ive been out of the turbo game for about a year, so if anyone has some updated or newer advice please correct me...

Agreed...

[MadLorEP3]

A vacuum block would help. and i dont think you will need a inline fuel pump for 400whp, i didnt. The walbro 255 should be just fine for the mean time.. i think they are good for around 500, but i never pushed mine that far.

stoopid question but I know that the amount of HP is determined by amt of boost
but who determines amt of boost, is that the tuner?
Ok so NO INLINE PUMP unless Im going over 450hp...
I ran a return line but with the new bosh 1000cc injectors from crsx i was told you dont have to run it.. Ive seen people do it both ways.

Again.. i bought dss axles but i know of an rsx here in town using stockers and making 477whp and his are holding up. I dont know how they would do with slicks though.

Yeah, I will get the DSS axles, what stg should I go with, Im thinking stg 0 should be fine for me???
I didnt use a catch can.. i just let it vent.

Ok so either catch can or vent is fine???
Get a oil fitting for the oil feed and a fitting for the oil pan.. for the return line. Crsx sells those too.

ok
I always went the safe route with my builds but there are always those budget builds that push oem parts to the extreme and some how they hold up..

Oh and i think just a boost gauge is all you will need.

check...
Ive been out of the turbo game for about a year, so if anyone has some updated or newer advice please correct me...

Agreed...

tnx so much for all the info guys freaking awesome

I found a badass deal on a brand new GT3582R kit everything hpc coated, also comes with buddy club turbo timer and vacuum block $4200 shipped

vs the EFR 7670 single scroll kit i was gonna get for $4900 without any HPC...