ITB's on k20a3

[3Peat]

Hey guys, I just bought an ep3 yesterday. Sold my boosted ek, and wanted to start over again...
I'm thinking of getting itb's. Would i need a re-tune cuz of increased air flow or what? I've never went with them before, so i just wanted to know what goes on with them, what can i expect to gain, and if i'd need a re-tune.
Thanks in advance.

[15000rpms]

This is what twm or clockwise motion told me, don't waste your money on the a3. But if you did want to go with itbs; for me my setup would consist of the kinsler itbs (which might not fit(not enough space)) and a set of IPS cams. Don't waste your money on twm, they don't produce good power compare to kinsler, but if you do get the decent deal on k20a.org for about $1000, go for it, but not on the a3.

[talonXracer]

Put a K20A2 swap in first.

[3Peat]

yeah, i really wanted to swap, but i'm low on funds..

[VIZHUNZ02SI]

swap first a3 is useless unless you're an eco driver

[sLiCk]

you are low on funds but you can afford to get itb's?

[lbk02si]

yeah, i really wanted to swap, but i'm low on funds..

You're gonna be even lower on funds if you try and make any serious power with that a3.

[3Peat]

yeh, i talked to my buddy and he told me the same thing. I'm gonna swap an a2 head..

[ep3jd]

yeh, i talked to my buddy and he told me the same thing. I'm gonna swap k20a2

Fixed

[talonXracer]

yeh, i talked to my buddy and he told me the same thing. I'm gonna swap an a2 head..

Just a very short piece of advice, the costs and time involved in a head swap are about the same as a complete A2 swap.

Hell a brand new in the box K20Z3 short block is only 1700$ from Honda! Dont waste money on trying to get whp out of the A3 shortblock without boost. The gains of ITB's over a RBC on a A2 are not all that great and only when large stage2 cams or better are run and anything but WOT with ITB's are a great compromise in drivability. ITB's and a DD do not mix very well.

[3Peat]

so you're saying i prob shouldn't get itb's if this is my dd? better choice with a RBC?

[3Peat]

Fixed

haha nice.

[heyvortek]

everyone is saying dont do anything to the a3 unless its a turbo. best choice is to swap with something such as a k24a1 if your low on funds.

[talonXracer]

so you're saying i prob shouldn't get itb's if this is my dd? better choice with a RBC?

That is not really what I posted, I stated that was on a A2. On the A3 BOTH are a serious downgrade for a DD and the ITB's are surely the low man on reliability and drivability. Sure they make more top end whp #'s, but seriously underperform at anything below that point.

Making NA horsepower is by far the most costly route to go, each step costs big $ for ever decreasing WHP gains the higher you go, and your core shortblock must be up to the task or you are simply wasting money.

[3Peat]

That is not really what I posted, I stated that was on a A2. On the A3 BOTH are a serious downgrade for a DD and the ITB's are surely the low man on reliability and drivability. Sure they make more top end whp #'s, but seriously underperform at anything below that point.

Making NA horsepower is by far the most costly route to go, each step costs big $ for ever decreasing WHP gains the higher you go, and your core shortblock must be up to the task or you are simply wasting money.

oh, okay okay. i got ya..
so i guess ima have to be lookin out for swaps,, lol