also check out Formula SAE to see their reasons behind their exterior design.
i'm gonna give you some time to rephrase that.Originally Posted by Agent
also check out Formula SAE to see their reasons behind their exterior design.
that thing looks mean
also check out Formula SAE to see their reasons behind their exterior design.
So you are saying that by tweaking the aerodynamics of the car, that you will lose body roll?
No seriously... I'm just trying to find out where you are coming from?
From what I have gathered, the most effective way to reduce body roll is using sway bars and stiffer spring/damper rates. Applying any types of aerodynamics to the ep will have a minimal/insignifcant effect unless the car is traveling over 55 mph. I really don't care if that Lotus is running 3 wings and a vacuum underneath it! Posting that picture does not prove anything!
I'm not tryng to be an ass, but you are really coming across as a know it all and I just want to see some valid data to verify your claims.
Is this where you got your information?
http://home.triad.rr.com/wmracing/sae_2002-01-3294.pdf
Last edited by Nitrofaint; 07-23-2008 at 07:41 PM.
higher than which? 9k, 14k, or 16k?
Im sure that most everyone could handle 9k.
as I said, 16k is more of a track use rating
and 14k would be the most i'd go at the street, but i think 10 front 12 rear would be ideal.
sorry for the double post, dont feel like editing
I think what he was saying that in a car WITHOUT body roll, tweaking the aerodynamics is very important.
So you are saying that by tweaking the aerodynamics of the car, that you will lose body roll?
No seriously... I'm just trying to find out where you are coming from?
From what I have gathered, the most effective way to reduce body roll is using sway bars and stiffer spring/damper rates. Applying any types of aerodynamics to the ep will have a minimal/insignifcant effect unless the car is traveling over 55 mph. I really don't care if that Lotus is running 3 wings and a vacuum underneath it! Posting that picture does not prove anything!
I'm not tryng to be an ass, but you are really coming across as a know it all and I just want to see some valid data to verify your claims.
Is this where you got your information?
http://home.triad.rr.com/wmracing/sae_2002-01-3294.pdf
For instance, on topgear('ve been referencing this show too much lately)
The stig drove the koeniggseg around the track and spun out off the road and then posted a fairly slow time because the suspension was SO stiff, and the aerodynamics were designed for top speed so there was very little downforce in order to keep the car from weighing 4 tons at 200 mph
He asked them to put a spoiler on it to increase downforce and it posted the fastest time at that date.
When a car has rock hard suspension aerodynamics are very important to keep the car pushed onto the road.
yep. example : F1
I compared one's desire for zero body roll + how they will depend on aerodynamics for handling.
and then here you come saying:
...when i have never even mentioned high speed and low speed travel.
either way, so i showed u a picture where one would use aerodynamics in AutoX because u said aerodyanmics have virtually no effect during low speed racing SUCH AS AUTOX.
and then u rant on saying:
also check out Formula SAE to see their reasons behind their exterior design.
you talk like air resistance don't exist unlesss u go more than 55mph. are there no air molecules when u autoX? do they say "oh shit, it's autoX time, let's gtfo out of here."
So you are saying that by tweaking the aerodynamics of the car, that you will lose body roll?
No seriously... I'm just trying to find out where you are coming from?
From what I have gathered, the most effective way to reduce body roll is using sway bars and stiffer spring/damper rates. Applying any types of aerodynamics to the ep will have a minimal/insignifcant effect unless the car is traveling over 55 mph. I really don't care if that Lotus is running 3 wings and a vacuum underneath it! Posting that picture does not prove anything!
I'm not tryng to be an ass, but you are really coming across as a know it all and I just want to see some valid data to verify your claims.
Is this where you got your information?
http://home.triad.rr.com/wmracing/sae_2002-01-3294.pdf
in automobiles and the phenotypical handling of automobiles, there are 2 things: mechanical & aerodynamic.
of course u are talking about the most effective way. I understand what you are trying to say. I honestly don't want to waste my time explaining the role of pressure when it comes to anything in motion. that's something that takes time and ur gonna have to learn urself.
I have never said aerodynamics will give you less body roll.
I have SAID that one will purely depend on the functions of aerodynamics if they want zero body roll and desires performance. Why? I'm not going to even explain why. Just watch formula racing and see why it grips more going 80mph in corners than 30mph.
I come from outer space
this stuff is pretty basic and common sense.
does it make u that angry that some one out of 1000000000000000 people in this world is there to refute your statement/argument? if u aren't angry, then i take back the question.
Last edited by oldskoofame; 07-23-2008 at 09:35 PM.
i'm not going to even click on that.
could be some porn site with viruses.
This is getting ridiculous....
Seriously.
Closed.
PS: Oldskoofame, you know your shit, but try not being a dick. Zzyzx always posts quality information & does not present it in a condescending tone.
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