Last edited by Kerby; 02-17-2009 at 07:42 AM.
I agree with getting kpro, but not buying used. You never know what's wrong with used stuff. I would not get a reflash, waste of money, more so if u plan on swapping. The difference with bolt on parts is minimal, but it allows for future flexibility. I really don't understand why people always want to cheap out when it comes to buying good parts. I'm not rich by any means, I had to save up for 4 months straight to buy the rev hard kit way back in the day, and a full year to do the swap I'm working on now. This cannot be stressed enough: BUY IT ONCE, AND BUY IT RIGHT.
Here's the thing.
If the difference with bolt-ons is minimal, what's the point of springing for the whole cost now? Since either choice, the reflash or Kpro isn't going to do much with just bolt-ons, and I have priorities other than car right now, why not just spend the couple hundred and get a little more fun out of my DD for the time being? Furthermore, you know what also allows for future flexibility? Cash in my bank account.I would not get a reflash, waste of money, more so if u plan on swapping. The difference with bolt on parts is minimal, but it allows for future flexibility.
This isn't about "cheaping out". It's about adding just a little something to my car for now, that will keep it interesting, but not break the bank. Maybe you didn't notice, but with a new baby around, my budgeting priorities are not in the automotive performance market at the moment. This is just a little something extra I can do while sticking to a tighter budget.I really don't understand why people always want to cheap out when it comes to buying good parts.
Hey, neither am I. But I don't know what your situation is, and you don't know what mine is. What works for you doesn't necessarily work for me. Our bills/expenses/cost of living/et al could be miles apart. Furthermore, what about tuning? There are, generally, additional costs associated with tuning a vehicle once Kpro is installed, right? I mean, sure, you could just run one of the canned tunes, but then you're not getting the full potential out of it, right?I'm not rich by any means, I had to save up for 4 months straight to buy the rev hard kit way back in the day, and a full year to do the swap I'm working on now. This cannot be stressed enough: BUY IT ONCE, AND BUY IT RIGHT.
Logic, son.
Listen, I started this thread to ask a specific question; will the alterations made by a reflash threaten my particularly high-mileage engine.
You'll notice that I didn't ask "should I just go full Kpro?" Know why? Not interested right now.
As I've said already, I look at a reflash as the down payment on full Kpro later on, when it's actually needed for the build I have planned in future. A reflash now is a way of spreading some of that cost, while still getting a little something new and fun to play with now.
I appreciate your input, but don't come in here and start chastising people that are, at least, staying on-topic, k?
Thanks!
Look here son, there's no need to get all butthurt about it. You asked for opinions, and I gave you mine. Sorry if it wasn't the one you were wanting. If you want to spend $300-400 on a reflash that will give you 2 whp, wtf do I care? If cash in your bank account is so important, then leave your car stock, and leave the modding to the cool guys. Maybe there will be a used taillight or shiftknob thread, where you can buy parts to keep your car interesting. And as far as "will a reflash hurt my high mileage ep" are you for real? K thx bye. Lol, wow.
Last edited by sleepy ep3; 08-30-2011 at 11:00 PM.
I'm just giving him shit, that's all. As far as whiney goes, im not sure i understand. Did you read his last post in which he tells me his life story, and how broke he is? But whatever, I'm glad beaterEp found a friend. Maybe you guys can meet up and suck each others stick shift while discussing how great reflashes are.
Last edited by sleepy ep3; 08-31-2011 at 06:00 AM.
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Guys, let's not get into flame wars here.
Sleepy, I thanked you for your opinion, let's just leave it at that. If you don't like my explanations for why I'm interested in a reflash as opposed to Kpro, that's your deal. There's no need to get into name-calling.
If you want to explain why you think my original question is such a joke, feel free. Otherwise, thanks.
Movin' on.
If you have a fair amount of bolt-on mods, then the engine and ECU will be far happier when the calibration is far closer to what is needed, ESPECIALLY during open loop operation!
Sure going full Kpro is better, but the reflash is far better than doing nothing to correct the calibrations.
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As far as the high mileage question; am I just being paranoid? :D
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Oooor, did you just kinda answer that question, and I'm missing that point?
lulz, reread your post talon and realized you were kind of addressing that, weren't you?
Last edited by Code99Kid; 02-17-2009 at 11:42 AM.
I would think so..
In the event your engine did let go soon after, whos to say a better set of engine instructions is to blame?
NY state has emissions testing almost as stringent as Ca, without Kpro or a reflash the ECU's calibration is so far out of whack there are issues with passing because the test occurs in both open and closed loop. I NEVER had any issues passing a sniffer test and the state inspectors never had a clue that Kpro was installed.
Last edited by talonXracer; 08-31-2011 at 07:19 AM.
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Yeah WPB, hadn't really though of it that way.
Makes absolute sense though; better maps should mean a happier engine.
No you're taking proper precautions....
1) Check your valve lash
2) Swap out your plugs if needed
3) Swap your timing chain unless you know it's 100% OKAY
4) Have your fuel injectors cleaned or buy some low mileage used 310cc injectors
I'm only mentioning those for 100% positive trouble free maintenance with the reflash. You probably don't need to do all of them, but if you did, there would be no issues running it at your mileage and your engine would be good and fresh for another 100k-120k.
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