Close

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 121

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    demonwerkz fEPst3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Garden Grove, California, United States
    Posts
    375
    if you were gonna sleeve it why not bump it to 88mm

  2. #2
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    Quote Originally Posted by fEPst3r View Post
    if you were gonna sleeve it why not bump it to 88mm
    Because realistically with guys hitting those numbers on 86mm k20 blocks, 87 is plenty sufficient. The sleeves are going in for protection and reliability more than for giving me more material to go bigger. Not saying this can't change one day.

  3. #3
    0EM xEcuTi0n Ba82Ep3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Mobile, AL
    Posts
    2,251
    Quote Originally Posted by AttarixEp View Post
    The sleeves are going in for protection and reliability more than for giving me more material to go bigger.


    Its not always about pushing the limits.

  4. #4
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerby View Post
    can you send me a PM on how much they charging you to do the headwork and block? They going to put the two together and basically give you a short block?
    Pm sent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ba82Ep3 View Post


    Its not always about pushing the limits.
    That's how I feel. I think if I didn't care about pushing the limits, all those pics would be of turbo parts, and I would have a dyno printout posted already. But it's only a matter of time before I post a "WTF happened to my engine" thread.

    Also I hate the feeling of, "wonder how hard I'm pushing this engine? I'm 40 miles from home, how much is a flat bed going to cost if it blows up right now?"

  5. #5
    0EM xEcuTi0n Ba82Ep3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Mobile, AL
    Posts
    2,251
    Quote Originally Posted by AttarixEp View Post
    That's how I feel. I think if I didn't care about pushing the limits, all those pics would be of turbo parts, and I would have a dyno printout posted already. But it's only a matter of time before I post a "WTF happened to my engine" thread.


    To me... this ^ is the difference between a 'tuner' gearhead and your average person that assembles purchased parts for dyno sheets/internet cred. Theres a difference between BUILDING something, and just slappin shit together.

    I dont say this to step on any toes. I dont think we really have anyone on here that blows wads of $$$ on a build without some form of personal involvement... but there are plenty of these types to be found on other sites...

  6. #6
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    K20A is riddled with stock engine high hp builds. I have nothing against that. If you want quick power, the K delivers. Maybe it's be, working at an automotive shop with nothing but "no replacement for displacement" guys, maybe it's just seeing too many bolt on, quick power goal, half ass builds that bring the "ricer" world 2 steps back from respect (by this I'm talking universal muffler, ebay CAI, cheap shit, not bashing the bolt on 300whp guys as I was until recently one of them)

    My theory is, once you cut a corner and realize you can get away with it for a while, the whole car ends up that way. I'm in the mindset that my ep is a PROJECT car that won't be ready this summer. May not be ready next summer. But the summer after, you better believe it will be out and about, pushing 650+whp burning all the corn this country can grow. And there will be a smile on my face the whole time because I know in my head that I didn't spare a dime, and I set out to build what I wanted the first time.

    I don't care if your goal is 300hp. If you put everything you got into making that the best 300hp that can be built. Then you've earned respect. If you slap on parts from used old builds from 8 different forums, purely to have your car hit the 300hp mark to impress everyone by ASAP. I say, to each his own, congrats on your dyno sheet but the 4 ft of rubber vac hose zip tied to the trans mount and back around behind the headlight to your HKS BOV just says "I like the Pssssh"

  7. #7
    Registered User Nickle n Dimin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    jersey
    Posts
    224
    Quote Originally Posted by AttarixEp View Post
    K20A is riddled with stock engine high hp builds. I have nothing against that. If you want quick power, the K delivers. Maybe it's be, working at an automotive shop with nothing but "no replacement for displacement" guys, maybe it's just seeing too many bolt on, quick power goal, half ass builds that bring the "ricer" world 2 steps back from respect (by this I'm talking universal muffler, ebay CAI, cheap shit, not bashing the bolt on 300whp guys as I was until recently one of them)

    My theory is, once you cut a corner and realize you can get away with it for a while, the whole car ends up that way. I'm in the mindset that my ep is a PROJECT car that won't be ready this summer. May not be ready next summer. But the summer after, you better believe it will be out and about, pushing 650+whp burning all the corn this country can grow. And there will be a smile on my face the whole time because I know in my head that I didn't spare a dime, and I set out to build what I wanted the first time.

    I don't care if your goal is 300hp. If you put everything you got into making that the best 300hp that can be built. Then you've earned respect. If you slap on parts from used old builds from 8 different forums, purely to have your car hit the 300hp mark to impress everyone by ASAP. I say, to each his own, congrats on your dyno sheet but the 4 ft of rubber vac hose zip tied to the trans mount and back around behind the headlight to your HKS BOV just says "I like the Pssssh"
    very well said GL with the build

  8. #8
    Registered User sleepy ep3's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Under your bed. Waiting...
    Posts
    764
    Quote Originally Posted by AttarixEp View Post
    Pm sent.



    That's how I feel. I think if I didn't care about pushing the limits, all those pics would be of turbo parts, and I would have a dyno printout posted already. But it's only a matter of time before I post a "WTF happened to my engine" thread.

    Also I hate the feeling of, "wonder how hard I'm pushing this engine? I'm 40 miles from home, how much is a flat bed going to cost if it blows up right now?"
    It's not always the engine block that breaks....I'm testament to that.

  9. #9
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    I've researched it. The blocks are strong and almost always the rods will go first. I'm just a firm believer in building beyond your goal. It's still never 100% safe no matter what at that power range, but it's easier on the mind to have parts that can handle 800hp and only throw 600hp at them.

    Even then, it's never for sure "safe," parts can fail no matter what the brand, material, etc. It's the risk you take.

  10. #10
    Registered User AKEP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Sacramento, California, United States
    Posts
    2,114
    nice, i feel ya. wish i had the dough to throw down on some rods and sleeves. its nice to know that your motor wont pop at random or in case of overboosting.

    one day.

  11. #11
    Registered User sleepy ep3's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Under your bed. Waiting...
    Posts
    764
    Quote Originally Posted by AttarixEp View Post
    I've researched it. The blocks are strong and almost always the rods will go first. I'm just a firm believer in building beyond your goal. It's still never 100% safe no matter what at that power range, but it's easier on the mind to have parts that can handle 800hp and only throw 600hp at them.

    Even then, it's never for sure "safe," parts can fail no matter what the brand, material, etc. It's the risk you take.
    I wasn't knocking your decision. It's definitely a better idea to do it this way. I don't remember who's sig it was, but it said if can, can, if no can, no can. If you can and should, then you should. Good luck with build, can't wait to see the full build thread.

  12. #12
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    More mail today from ERL Performance via Hybrid-Racing. Brand new modified S2000 oil pump!

  13. #13
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    Got in some new parts from Honda
    RBC manifold, and TSX head gasket. Going to start shaving and cleaning up the manifold tomorrow.

  14. #14
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    Haven't updated in a while. No I haven't lost interest and sold the car and every part I bought. The whole longblock assembly is currently being built and assembled and IMW as we speak! Block came back from Benson's with brand new sleeves. Full assy top to bottom and all new valvetrain is going in. One of my oil squirter ports (k24a2 block) was damaged in the process, so we ultimately decided to block them all off, which going turbo, is actually the better idea in the end in order to feed my monster enough oil.

    I will post pics when I get it shipped back!

  15. #15
    Registered User AttarixEp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    381
    New part while I wait for the block and parts to get finished and shipped back

    BluePrint Racing 40* VTC limiter. The $30 part that makes the $15,000 engine much safer.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •