that is wierd, I mean if you look at the pictures on the interwebz, you can see some of them show clips, some dont. maybe they did change the design since I bought mine, It was over 3 years ago so idk.
if they did, I will be looking for an alternative because that is shitty. as I said though, I heard bad things about the J's racing ones. idk now......
Wouldn't a reflash be silly if I was planning to get Kpro eventually anyways?
I'd rather have that go into an exhaust that I can use after bigger plans for the engine. Probably a ws2. Do k20 intakes fit on a k24? If so, I would probably get an intake, velocity stack, etc. Also, since I am gonna be going off to college with at the least 3 months downtime to work on the car, I feel like Kpro would be silly. I would save that for when I do major engine upgrades. I only said ower control arms for the new poly bushings that they would have. Poly bushings are great, I love them compared to work out stock ones, so that's why I said that. I think I would still get them, plus a subframe brace, and strut bars. Unless someone would advise against it for a reason besides and intake and ecu reflash.
"Do k20 intakes fit on a k24"
all depends on what intake manifold you use.
this is how i would do it if i was you.
1.kpro
2.suspension
after you do those two mods, you are pretty much set to go on anything else you decide.
if you get an engine swap, you will have kpro already to go and your suspension will be set to put that power to the ground.
why would Kpro be silly? personally I think the reflash is silly. especially if you are planning to go bigger in the future. just my opinion. you will get more out of Kpro, and you will be able to tune in your specific intake and exhaust better, If I bought the reflash I wouldnt be satisfied. BUT, it doesnt really cost any more to upgrade to Kpro if you do get the reflash
control arms are great, once you have done EVERYTHING else in your suspension. otherwise they are bling and that is all. the rear lower control arm bushings arent even really a huge weak point, mine have 260k and are still perfectly fine. all the other bushings in the car suck balls and need replaced before you even come near to gaining a performance advantage from poly bushings or rear lower control arms.
$3000
Hondata Kpro -$800 or less brand new and installed. or 4-600 for a used one.
Exhaust of your choice $800 or less Brand new, or used one for less than $500
leave your stock intake and exhaust manifolds
test pipe -$100 or less.
decent CAI, $200 ish.
that leaves you with 1100 to spend on the suspension if you buy everything new. that should be more than enough to get something good and driveable on the street.
Well, after much more reading and learning, Kpro seems like the best upgrade along with anything more than an intake. And, I will need it in the future, if I keep the car. I'll try and look for a car with Kpro already installed, it would be great to be able to have minor things like Kpro and a good intake already on their. A WS2 exhaust seems in order, as well, since this will be a daily driven street car of a poor college kid. And I think that's all the engine mods I could afford on my budget. A spec suspension, wheels and tires, and a new timing belt/water pump/etc just for peace of mind and preventative maintenance. That will be a just shy of $4000 right there, with a tune.
As for the bushings, I was talking about replacing all of them, or at least, get a full kit and replace all the shot ones. Buying lower control arms is almost worth the hassle of pressing in new bushings, to me, at least. lol.
Don't waste your money on a WS2. Don't get me wrong, it sounds amazing but it is WAAAAAAY overpriced for a catback that is not made of stainless steel. Best bargain for exhaust: OBX race header, megan or 05-06 RSX-S midpipe and stock axleback.
I would rather wait for a high performance header rather than eBay product. If anything, I would just wait. I can see myself supercharging within a year of having the car, so i would probably want to slowly get the parts I want for that, and then have everything ready on the power levels that I *may* want. Either way, I'm not a fan of buying eBay parts. I bought an eBay camber kit for my car and it broke on me in a test drive. Since then, I try and stay away from off brand Ebay crap, although OBX and Megan are both popular and I hear good things(and bad) about them.
DITCH THE LOWER CONTROL ARMS.
their useless bling and my almost 300K MILE ONES BUSHINGS ARE STILL PERFECT.
PLUS the energy suspension bushing kit doesnt even come with those bushings.
the arms are the LAST thing you need in your suspension to improve it.
additionally I have to ask, if your a broke college kid, why are you spending $4k on mods? I would kpro, suspension and be done with it.
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